Convolution in Frequency Domain

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around finding the Fourier transform of a given signal, specifically the function x(t) = sin(t) defined over the interval -π to π, using Fourier transform properties and tables. Participants explore the convolution in the frequency domain and the implications of using a rectangular function in the analysis.

Discussion Character

  • Homework-related
  • Mathematical reasoning
  • Technical explanation

Main Points Raised

  • One participant states that x(t) can be expressed as a sine function convolved with a rectangular function, suggesting the use of the frequency convolution property for the Fourier transform.
  • Another participant proposes an alternative approach, suggesting to use unit step functions instead of the rectangle function, indicating a different method to tackle the problem.
  • A participant mentions that their teacher confirmed the use of the rectangle function as the correct method but did not provide further details.
  • There is a reference to a theorem involving the convolution of a function with a delta function, which could simplify the process, although it is noted that the algebra involved may be complex.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the appropriate method to use for the Fourier transform, with some supporting the use of the rectangle function and others suggesting alternative approaches. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the best method to apply.

Contextual Notes

There are indications of missing assumptions regarding the treatment of the rectangle function and the implications of using convolution with delta functions. The complexity of the algebra involved in the proposed methods is also noted.

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Homework Statement


Find the Fourier transform of the following signal JUST by using the FT table and the FT properties

x(t) = sin(t) -pi<=t<=pi
0 otherwise

NOTE: I am using CONVOLVED WITH as a substitute for * (the real convolution operator) because I cannot express multiplication in any other way that I know of).

Homework Equations



Frequency Convolution : x1(t)*x2(t) ==> (1/2pi)X1(\omega) CONVOLVED WITH X2(\omega)

Fourier Transforms:
sin(ω0t) ===> (pi/j)[δ(ω-ω0)-δ(ω+ω0)]

rect(t/\tau) ===> \tausinc(\omega\tau/2pi)

The Attempt at a Solution



I know that x(t) can be expressed as a sine multiplied with a rectangle function

x(t) = sin(t) * rect(t/2pi)

so by the frequency convolution property, X(ω)= (1/2pi)[\frac{pi}{j}[δ(ω-1)+δ(ω+1)] CONVOLVED WITH 2pi*sinc(ω)]My problem is how to do the convolution. Is it easier than it looks? I don't know how the imaginary (j) factors into the convolution. Can someone help explain how to simplify X(ω)? Thank you
 
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I get from the problem statement that you're not supposed to doany convolving.

How about using u(t-π) and u(t+π) along with sin(t) and forgetting about your rectangle function?
 
My teacher actually said that using the rectangle function was the correct method of doing it, but didn't elaborate. All he said was set x(t) = sin(t)*rect(t/2pi)
 
f00lishroy said:
My teacher actually said that using the rectangle function was the correct method of doing it, but didn't elaborate. All he said was set x(t) = sin(t)*rect(t/2pi)


EDIT:
OK, then, how about the fact that

f(ω)**δ(ω-ω0) = f(ω-ω0) where I use ** to denote convolution. You have delta functions in your transform of sin(t); these are easily eliminated by using this theorem in convolving with the transform of the rectangular time function. The rest is very messy algebra.
 
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