Copper calorimeter final temperature

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The problem involves a copper calorimeter containing water and ice, with a lead mass introduced at a higher temperature. The objective is to determine the final temperature of the system under the assumption of no heat loss to the surroundings.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the heat transfer equations and the relationships between the masses and specific heats involved. There are attempts to verify the calculations and ensure the correct application of the latent heat of fusion for the ice.

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Some participants have provided feedback on the calculations, suggesting re-evaluation of the numbers and confirming the correctness of the equations used. There is an ongoing exploration of the values and their placements in the equations.

Contextual Notes

One participant noted a potential error in the specific heat value used for water, indicating a need for careful attention to the details in the calculations. There are also mentions of multiple interpretations of the results, reflecting the complexity of the problem.

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Homework Statement



A copper calorimeter can with mass 0.100 kg contains 0.160 kg of water and 0.018 kg of ice in thermal equilibrium at atmospheric pressure.

If 0.750 kg of lead at a temperature of 255^{o}C is dropped into the calorimeter can, what is the final temperature? Assume that no heat is lost to the surroundings.

c(copper)=390 (J/k*kg)
c(water)=4190 (J/k*kg)
c(lead)=1930 (J/k*kg)
L_{f(water)}=334*10^3(J/Kg)

Homework Equations



Q=mL_{f(water)}

Q=mc\DeltaT

0=Q_{1}+Q_{2}+Q_{3}

The Attempt at a Solution



I said that the heat lost by the lead is equal to the heat gained by the calorometer. So,

-mc(lead)\Delta T(lead)=mL_{f(water)}+mc(copper)\Delta T(cal)+mc(water)\Delta T(cal)Than I noted that \Delta T(lead)\ and \Delta T(cal) both share the same final temperature, say Tf. Letting \Delta T=Tf-Ti and subbing in the Ti (initial temp) values and then rearranging to get Tf on it's own,

-mc(lead)*(Tf-255)=mL_{f(water}+mc(copper)*(Tf-0)+mc(water)*(Tf-0)

Therefore,

Tf=24790/877=28.3^{o}C

Which is apparently wrong. Can anyone please tell me why?
 
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Your equation is correct. Try crunching the numbers again. I haven't got my calculator, but if the numbers given are correct you should get the correct answer.

Did you put the correct masses in the correct places? I noticed you wrote "mLf(water)" where I would have written "ice."
 
I used the following numbers,

-97.5*T_{f}+24862.5J=72.45J+39T_{f}+745.82T_{f}

Where the 72.45J is the latent heat of fusion of the ice, which I now can see is wrong. It should be 6012J. I foolishly used the waters specific heat incorrectly.

Redoing the above gives,

-97.5*T_{f}+24862.5J=6012J+39T_{f}+745.82T_{f}

Therefore T_{f}=18850/882.32=21.4^{o}C

Thanks for pointing that out, does this look right to you?
 
Hi everyone,

Please note i accidentally posted the same question twice. Sorry.

Vuldoraq
 
Hi,

21 degrees C is the right answer. Thanks for all the help.

Vuldoraq
 

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