Could a blimp shrink into a plane?

In summary, the conversation discusses the concept of a hybrid airship that can transform into a plane while in flight. Some potential problems raised include the storage of extra material, the difficulty of creating a rigid and aerodynamic skin, and the need for additional machinery and fuel. The functionality and advantages of such a hybrid are also questioned.
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I can imagine a frame within a blimp/hybrid airship so when the hydrogen inside the blimp is recaptured the skin retracts to form a wing. As the blimp travels faster it shrinks, the buoyancy giving way to the lift from its wing shape to a point in which it is no longer a blimp, but a plane.
What problems may arise from this conceptual aircraft?

Scale aside this would be the rough general shapes of it on take-off and during flight.
How would one
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The general term is hybrid airship. Since few, if any, became production models I would take the list of different hybrids in the article 'with several grains of salt'.

The term "hybrid airship" has also been used to describe an airship comprising a mix of rigid, semi-rigid, and non-rigid construction.
 
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A few problems I see off the top of my noggin:
  1. Where would all the extra material be stored? It would take up premium payload space.
  2. How would you turn a material - that is flexible enough to be compacted into the nooks and crannies of a plane - into a skin tight and rigid enough to not create deleterious drag from flapping around in the winds?
  3. How much extra machinery would be required to expand and contract the structure? How much hydrogen tank volume? How many heavy pumps?
  4. How much structure would the plane itself require in its surfaces to perform double duty supporting alternately aerodynamic functionality and balloon support?
  5. How big does such a dirigible have to be to be buoyant? How big would a plane have to be to support everything needed for the hybrid? Or, look at it the other way: how small could you make such a plane? If you don't get sufficient reduction in size, then you may not have much reason left to have an airplane form - it would still need dirigible-sized landing and takeoff areas.
 
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It comes down to functionality:
What advantage is gained by having this hybrid? Specifically, what advantage - other than convenience/speed - would be had by having a plane form - to offset the inevitable trade-offs?

Tell us what problem you're trying to solve.
 
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Maybe not as dramatic but enough to be efficient at faster speeds. Maybe a more tubular design for traveling higher and faster. It would just get thinner with less cross-section.
 
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MUZE said:
efficient at faster speeds. Maybe a more tubular design for traveling higher and faster.
I think you're describing a rocket.

Seriously. In addition to all of the other problems, you will have to solve the lift vs. buoyancy trade off at every moment during the transition. I expect there is an in between configuration where you have a heavier than air craft with a wing shape that doesn't produce enough lift. It's a difficult problem, especially in a commercial market place that places extreme value on efficiency.
 
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MUZE said:
What problems may arise from this conceptual aircraft?
Some people listed some problems, but can you say what benefits you would see to this idea vs current aircraft?
 

1. Can a blimp physically shrink into a plane?

No, a blimp cannot physically shrink into a plane. The two aircraft have very different designs and structures, making it impossible for a blimp to transform into a plane.

2. Is it possible for a blimp to be converted into a plane?

Technically, it is possible for a blimp to be converted into a plane. However, it would require extensive modifications and changes to the blimp's structure and design, making it a complex and costly process.

3. Would a shrunken blimp still function as a blimp?

No, a shrunken blimp would not function as a blimp. The unique shape and structure of a blimp is what allows it to float and maneuver through the air. Shrinking it would change these characteristics and render it unable to function as a blimp.

4. Is it more efficient to fly a shrunken blimp or a regular plane?

A regular plane is more efficient than a shrunken blimp. Planes are designed for faster and more efficient travel, while blimps are better suited for slow and steady movement. Shrinking a blimp into a plane would not change this fundamental difference.

5. Can a blimp be made to look like a plane?

Yes, a blimp can be made to resemble a plane through external modifications, such as adding wings and a tail. However, it would still function as a blimp and not have the same capabilities as a regular plane.

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