Counting Techniques Question: Drawing 5 specific cards out of a deck

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The discussion focuses on calculating the number of combinations for drawing 5 specific cards from a standard 52-card deck, specifically one Jack, one Queen, and one King, along with two additional cards. The correct solution is identified as 49,920 combinations, while one participant mistakenly calculates 99,840. The error arises from using a sequential selection method (40 x 39) instead of the combination formula (40C2) for the remaining two cards, which does not account for the order of selection. The importance of distinguishing between combinations and permutations is emphasized in resolving the discrepancy. Understanding these counting techniques is crucial for accurate probability calculations in card games.
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Homework Statement



We draw 5 cards out of a normal deck of 52 cards. No replacements.
How many combinations have exactly one Jack, one Queen, one King?

Homework Equations





The Attempt at a Solution



The solution = 49,920

My attempts:

I keep getting 99,840.

So 4C1 Jack, 4C1 Queen, 4C1 King, then for remaining two cards 40 possible, then 39 possible.

I go 4C1 x 4C1 x 4C1 x 40 x 39 = 99,840

Are there combinations that are repeated somewhere then? :S
 
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student74 said:

Homework Statement



We draw 5 cards out of a normal deck of 52 cards. No replacements.
How many combinations have exactly one Jack, one Queen, one King?

Homework Equations





The Attempt at a Solution



The solution = 49,920

My attempts:

I keep getting 99,840.

So 4C1 Jack, 4C1 Queen, 4C1 King, then for remaining two cards 40 possible, then 39 possible.

I go 4C1 x 4C1 x 4C1 x 40 x 39 = 99,840

Are there combinations that are repeated somewhere then? :S

After choosing 1 Jack, 1 Queen and 1 King you need to choose two more cards from 40. The number of ways of doing that =?

RGV
 
oh! thanks Ray! Why doesn't it work going 40 x 39 instead of 40C2? Does 40 x 39 not work because that takes into account order as being relevant?
 
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