Damped and Driven Oscillation of a Bridge

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The discussion revolves around the damped and driven oscillation of a bridge, focusing on the relationship between amplitude, damping constant, and the force constant of the system. Participants are exploring how to derive necessary parameters to analyze the oscillatory behavior.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

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  • Participants are attempting to find the force constant k and the period T of the undriven, undamped system. Questions are raised about the relationship between damping, natural frequency, and the decay of amplitude over time.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants sharing insights and questioning assumptions. Some have provided guidance on the relationship between the natural frequency and the driving frequency, while others are still seeking clarity on how to derive specific values.

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There is mention of constraints regarding the use of differential equations in the participants' coursework, which may limit their approach to solving the problem. Additionally, the original poster has expressed difficulty in using the Latex system for mathematical representation.

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Sorry that I had to use an image file, I was having a lot of trouble using the Latex system.

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Ok... We know the amplitude of the oscillations, and the force per person, so all we need to do is find Fmax, by finding other values and substituting into the equation for amplitude.

By using the equation for oscillation of an underdamped system I have found that b=m/3T, where T is the period of the undriven, undamped system, but I'm not sure how to find T in order to get a numerical value for b. I could find it if I knew k, the force constant of the system, but I have no idea how to find that.

So, I guess that my question is, how do I find the k of the system? If I know that, I think I'll be able to solve the rest of the problem.

Thanks!
 
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Well, your quote says: "Take the damping constant to be such that the amplitude of the undriven oscillations would decay to 1/e of its original value in a time t= 6T where T is the period of the undriven, undamped system."

The "undriven, undamped" system has equation of the form my"+\omega_n = 0 and so has solution of the form y= A cos(\omega)+ B sin(\omega). What is \omega for that system? What is its period, T? What it 6T? What must k be so that the solution to my"- ky'+ \omega_ny= 0 reduces to 1/e of its original value in time 6T?
 
I can see what you mean (I think :smile: ). If I knew \omega_n I would be able to solve the problem. However, I'm not sure how I should go about finding \omega_n. In the physics course that I'm taking we are not really expected to be able to solve differential equations.

Thanks!
 
Anybody got any ideas?
 
I've solved it now... I was supposed to assume that since resonance was occurring, the natural frequency was approximately equal to the frequency of the driving force.
 

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