Density of Solution and mass percent

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The discussion revolves around calculating molarity from density and mass percent concentration, specifically for methanol and sulfuric acid (H2SO4). The first example uses a straightforward formula of density divided by molar mass to find molarity, while the second example requires a more complex approach due to H2SO4's mass percent concentration and density. Participants clarify that the density provided is for the concentrated solution, not pure H2SO4. They derive the molarity by calculating the mass of H2SO4 in a liter of solution and converting that mass into moles. The conversation emphasizes the importance of understanding the relationship between density, mass percent, and molarity in solution calculations.
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There are two numericals,

1. Density of Methanol is 0.793 kg/l. Find molarity. ANSWER is : Desity/ Molar mass = Molarity (UNDERSTANDABLE)

In other numerical
2. Concentration of H2SO4 is 98% by mass having density of 1.84gm/ml. Calculate Molarity.
here they used another formula.

now my question is, How second question is different from First ? why didnt they took density and devided it by Molar mass to get molarity?
What I am missing?
 
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The density of your H2SO4 looks wrong to me.
 
Sorry ! Corrected. It was missing decimal.
 
I imagine the difference is in the concentration. If H2SO4 is 98% of the concentration by mass, is the 1.84gm/ml the density of H2SO4 or the density of the concentration?
Perhaps if you posted the formula you are looking at, it would make clear what the example is trying to show.
 
Take as a basis 1 liter of solution. What is the mass of this 1 liter of solution? If the mass fraction of sulfuric acid is 0.98, what is the mass of sulfuric acid in the 1 liter of solution? How many moles is that?

Chet
 
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Thank you guys for your reply.

Formula is MOLARITY = (%age * density *10)/ Density
 
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Chestermiller said:
What is the mass of this 1 liter of solution? If the mass fraction of sulfuric acid is 0.98, what is the mass of sulfuric acid in the 1 liter of solution? How many moles is that?

Sorry I didnt get what you are implying.
Here is another way to Present my Doubt. We say that Molarity of Pure water is 55.5 ( which we calculate by using Density as 1)
Now By giving mass percentage, What extra information is given ?

SECOND: what is difference between STRENGTH of soln. and DENSITY of solution.
 
Giving you what?
 
Molarity

Well it is simple derivation, By considering mass of solution = 100gm and H2SO4 = 98gm
then they converted Mass of solution into VOLUME. and converted mass of H2SO4 into moles.
Once you have both of them, you can get molarity.

NOW my confusion is ... Why didnt they simply converted DENSITY ( gm/ml) Into Molarity ( MOLES/ ml)
what I am missing?
 
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Time to back up a couple steps; what is the definition of molarity?
 
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Moles in Litre Solution
 
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... and, if the density of 98% sulfuric acid is 1.84 g/cm3, one liter contains how many grams?
 
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I think I got it ?
If I only consider Density : 1 litres contain 1840 gm ,
Now this 1840gm will be of weight of (Sulphuric acid + water) ?
 
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harman90 said:
Now this 1840gm will be of weight of (Sulphuric acid + water) ?
Yes. How much sulfuric acid?
 
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Alright ...

SO 98gm H2SO4 in 100gm solution.
100 gm solution = 54.3 ml.

Weight of Sulphuric acid is = 98/54.3 * 1000 = 1804.8 gm
 
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Correct. That will be how many moles?
 
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18.4 moles

Thanks.
 
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This would all have been much simpler if you had chosen as a basis of the calculation 1 liter of solution rather than 100 gm of solution (as I suggested in post #5).
mass of 1 liter of solution = 1840 gm
mass of H2SO4 = (0.98)(1840)=1804.8 gm
moles of H2SO4 = 18.4
moles H2SO4 per liter of solution = 18.4

Chet
 
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