Derivation: force on magnetic moment in magnetic field

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The discussion focuses on deriving the equation for the torque on a magnetic moment in a magnetic field, specifically ##\vec{\Gamma} = \vec{m} \times \vec{B}##, starting from the Lorentz force law. The magnetic moment is defined as ##\vec{m} = I \vec{A}##, where ##\vec{A}## is the area vector normal to the current loop. Various approaches are explored, including the use of vector identities and a reference to an undergraduate textbook, Griffiths, which provides a similar derivation for a rectangular loop. The conversation highlights the complexity of the derivation due to the non-associative nature of the vector triple product and concludes with a detailed mathematical proof that successfully arrives at the desired equation. This proof emphasizes the importance of vector calculus in solving the problem.
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I am trying to derive the equation ##\vec{\Gamma} = \vec{m} \times \vec{B}##, where ##\vec{m} = I \vec{A}## is the magnetic moment, and ##\vec{A}## is normal to surface ##A##, from the Lorentz force law ##\mathrm{d}\vec{F} = I \vec{dl} \times \vec{B}##. For an arbitrary closed current loop ##C## enclosing the area ##A##, I have tried

$$ \vec{\Gamma} = \oint_C{\mathrm{d}\vec{\Gamma}} = \oint_C{\vec{r} \times \mathrm{d}\vec{F}} = \oint_C{\vec{r} \times I (\vec{dl} \times \vec{B})} = I \oint_C{\vec{r} \times (\vec{dl} \times \vec{B})}.$$

Now I know that ##\vec{A} = \frac{1}{2} \oint{\vec{r} \times \mathrm{d}\vec{l}}##, but I don't know how to complete the proof. I have also tried to consider a square loop giving rise to the magnetic moment ##\vec{m}## to derive the equation, but this looks even more complicated.
 
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It looks like it should be a simple result from vector identities, but I think this one might be non-trivial. The vector triple product is non-associative, so ## B ## doesn't simply factor out. An old E&M textbook that I have, Intermediate Electromagnetic Theory by Schwarz, does their torque derivation by assuming that the magnetic field points in the x-direction, and then writes out the torque integrals for each torque component in terms of x, y, and z. ## \\ ## @vanhees71 Might you have a simple trick for this one?
 
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It looks like it should be a simple result from vector identities, but I think this one might be non-trivial. The vector triple product is non-associative, so ## B ## doesn't simply factor out. An old E&M textbook that I have, Intermediate Electromagnetic Theory by Schwarz, does their torque derivation by assuming that the magnetic field points in the x-direction, and then writes out the torque integrals for each torque component in terms of x, y, and z. ## \\ ## @vanhees71 Might you have a simple trick for this one?

Right, I agree completely. I forgot about my undergraduate electrodynamics book, we used Griffiths hehe. In Griffiths, the derivation is done for a rectangular loop which is sloped with respect to the magnetic field. However, problem 2 from the chapter 'Magnetic Fields in Matter' covers this question exactly I see now, and gives the complete derivation based solely on vector calculus. I will write it out here for those interested.
 
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So here it goes. First, some required vector identities:

The Jabobi identity:
$$\vec{r} \times (d\vec{l} \times \vec{B}) + d\vec{l} \times (\vec{B} \times \vec{r}) + \vec{B} \times (\vec{r} \times d\vec{l}) = \vec{0},$$

and the differential:

$$d[\vec{r} \times (\vec{r} \times \vec{B})] = d\vec{r} \times (\vec{r} \times \vec{B}) + \vec{r} \times (d\vec{r} \times B),$$
since ##\vec{B}## is constant. Since ##d\vec{r} = d\vec{l}##, this may be written as

$$d[\vec{r} \times (\vec{r} \times \vec{B})] = d\vec{l} \times (\vec{r} \times \vec{B}) + \vec{r} \times (d\vec{l} \times B).$$

Combining the Jacobian identity with the differential we have

\begin{align}
\vec{r} \times (d\vec{l} \times \vec{B}) &= d[\vec{r} \times (\vec{r} \times \vec{B})] - d\vec{l} \times (\vec{r} \times \vec{B}) \\ &= d[\vec{r} \times (\vec{r} \times \vec{B})] + d\vec{l} \times (\vec{B} \times \vec{r}) \\ &= d[\vec{r} \times (\vec{r} \times \vec{B})] - \vec{r} \times (d\vec{l} \times \vec{B}) - \vec{B} \times (\vec{r} \times d\vec{l}),
\end{align}
and therefore

$$2\vec{r} \times (d\vec{l} \times \vec{B)} = d[\vec{r} \times (\vec{r} \times \vec{B})] - \vec{B} \times (\vec{r} \times d\vec{l}).$$

This gives

\begin{align}
\vec{\Gamma} &= \oint{d\vec{\Gamma}} \\ &= \oint{\vec{r} \times d \vec{F}} \\ &= I \oint{\vec{r} \times (d\vec{l} \times \vec{B})} \\ &= \frac{I}{2} \oint{d[\vec{r} \times (\vec{r} \times \vec{B})]} - \frac{I}{2} \oint{\vec{B} \times (\vec{r} \times d\vec{l})} \\ &= \vec{0} -I \vec{B} \times \frac{1}{2} \oint{\vec{r} \times d\vec{l}} \\ &= -I \vec{B} \times \vec{A} \\ &= I \vec{A} \times \vec{B} \\ &= \vec{m} \times \vec{B}.
\end{align}
 
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