Derivation of time period for physical pendula without calculus

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The discussion centers on deriving the time period T of a physical pendulum, specifically a uniform rod pendulum, without using calculus. The original poster is seeking assistance to complete their derivation, noting that a referenced source skips a crucial step in the process. They express confusion regarding the relationship between a rotating disc's angle, its x-coordinate, and the x-component of acceleration. A participant attempts to clarify this relationship, but the original poster requests further elaboration on the concept. The thread highlights the challenges of deriving pendulum equations using torque without calculus.
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TL;DR Summary: I'm stuck trying to find the equation for time period T of a physical pendulum without any calculus using torque.

Hello all.

I am currently writing my IB Physics HL IA (high school physics lab report).

I am investigating the effect of length on the time period of a uniform rod pendulum.

I need to derive the following equation, ideally without using calculus:
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This website has a good derivation but skips an important step at the end, when stating "This is identical in form to the equation for the simple pendulum and yields a period: EQUATION ABOVE". I was wondering if there was a way to arrive to the equation without jumping through hoops. If anyone could help me continue my derivation I'd be very appreciative. I got as far as this:

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Kind regards
Dan
 
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Consider a point on the periphery of a disc rotating at constant speed. What is the relationship between the disc's rotation angle at some instant, the x coordinate of the point and the component of its acceleration in the x direction?
 
haruspex said:
Consider a point on the periphery of a disc rotating at constant speed. What is the relationship between the disc's rotation angle at some instant, the x coordinate of the point and the component of its acceleration in the x direction?
haruspex, thank you for your response, but I don't seem to understand. What do you mean by x-coordinate?

Could you show your working out?

Many thanks
Dan
 
danpendr said:
What do you mean by x-coordinate?
Take a disc radius r to be rotating about the origin in the XY plane at angular velocity ω. For a point on the perimeter, what is the relationship between its x coordinate and the x component of its acceleration?
 
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