Discussion Overview
The discussion revolves around deriving an expression for resistance in terms of current density, particularly in the context of electromotive force (emf) and its effects on electric fields. Participants explore different approaches to relate current, current density, and resistance while considering the influence of emf on the electric field.
Discussion Character
- Technical explanation
- Debate/contested
- Mathematical reasoning
Main Points Raised
- One participant questions the validity of using the equation \( j = \sigma E \) without considering the effect of emf, suggesting that \( j \) should be expressed as \( j = \sigma (E + E') \).
- Another participant agrees with the reasoning behind the equation and sees no issues with it.
- A participant presents an equation relating voltage difference, current, resistance, and emf, emphasizing that the voltage difference in a circuit with emf is not simply \( IR \) but includes a term for emf.
- There is a repeated assertion that \( j \) must account for the emf, reinforcing the idea that it should be expressed in terms of both \( E \) and \( E' \).
- One participant expresses frustration with the discussion around the split electric field concept, indicating a desire to move past that topic.
Areas of Agreement / Disagreement
Participants express differing views on the treatment of the electric field in relation to emf. While some agree on the necessity of including the effect of emf in the expression for current density, others are less certain or challenge the framing of the discussion.
Contextual Notes
There are unresolved assumptions regarding the definitions of electric fields and the role of emf in the derivation of resistance. The discussion reflects varying interpretations of these concepts.