Determining equations for tension in 3D statics problem.

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The discussion focuses on deriving equations for the tensions in cables AB and CD, as well as the reaction at point O, in a 3D statics problem involving a steel beam and a vertical point load, P. Participants emphasize the need to establish vectors for the tensions and their corresponding unit vectors, with an example provided for cable AB. The user expresses uncertainty about setting up the equilibrium equations and how to split the overall force equilibrium into manageable parts. There is a suggestion that once the unit vectors are determined, the unknown magnitudes of the tensions can be treated as coefficients in the equilibrium equations. The conversation highlights the importance of correctly identifying the unit vectors and applying them to formulate the necessary equations for analysis.
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Homework Statement


The steel beam is supported by cables AB and CD and a ball-and-socket joint at O. The position of the vertical point load, P influences the reaction at O as well as the tension in each cable.
First you need to derive the equations for the tension in cable AB, the tension in cable CD and the reaction at O in terms of x, which represents the placement of the point load, P, measured from the axis origin, point O.

We are given length of the beam and distances between things, but no other numbers.
The end goal is to put the three derived equations in a for loop for various values of x MATLAB.

Homework Equations


\Sigma F = 0
\Sigma M = 0

The Attempt at a Solution


I know how to solve problems using summation of forces and moments for problems where we must find forces acting on things, but I don't know how to set up a basic equation for tension in 3 dimensions.

I'm assuming I must set up vectors for the direction of the tensions, but am not exactly sure how to for this problem.

For example the direction vector of AB is rAB= rB-rA=-6i+2j+3k, and the unit vector is
λAB=-6/7i+2/7j+3/7k with i, j, k being the vectors corresponding to x, y, and z.

If this is correct then the unit vector for CD should be λAB=-3/5i+4/5j

Where do I go from here? I'm thinking I need to make one force equilibrium equation for everything in the system, but I don't know how I would split that up into several equations.https://www.physicsforums.com/attachments/89824 https://www.physicsforums.com/attachments/89824
 

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A Tension is a pull along the direction the [ideal] rope.
So, if you know their directions (from the relevant unit vectors), the missing pieces are the unknown magnitudes of those tensions (which are coefficients of those unit-vectors).
 
robphy said:
A Tension is a pull along the direction the [ideal] rope.
So, if you know their directions (from the relevant unit vectors), the missing pieces are the unknown magnitudes of those tensions (which are coefficients of those unit-vectors).
So if I find the unit vector for CD, do I just add the coefficients of i and j together to make a force equilibrium equation?

The unit vector for CD should be λAB=-3/5i+4/5j, correct?
 
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