Determining the velocity function

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To determine the velocity function from the given parametric equations, the position vector must be expressed as \(\vec{r}=r\vec{i}_r(\theta)\). The velocity vector is derived by differentiating the position vector, resulting in \(\vec{v}(t)=\dot{r}\vec{e}_r + r\dot{\theta}\vec{e}_{\theta}\). The calculations yield \(\dot{r}=ake^{kt}\vec{e}_r\) and \(r\dot{\theta}=ae^{kt}k\vec{e}_{\theta}\). The final expression for velocity in terms of \(r\) is given as \(v(r)=\sqrt{2}r\). The discussion emphasizes the importance of correctly applying the derivatives and understanding the relationships between the variables in polar coordinates.
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Homework Statement


Given the ## r(t) = ae^{kt}## , ##θ(t)=kt## find the velocity function that is dependent on ##r##.
##v(r)=?##

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3. The Attempt at a Solution [/B]
My attempt:
1)##r(t) = ae^{kt}##
2)##{\dot r(t)} = ake^{kt}##
From the first equation:
##\ln {\frac{r(t)}{a}}=\ln e^{kt}##
##\ln {\frac{r(t)}{a}}=kt##
##t=\frac{\ln {\frac{r(t)}{a}}}{k}##
Replacing the ##t## in the second equation i get:
##{\dot r}=akr##
Shouldn't this be the answer? In the answers it says ##{\dot r}=\sqrt2r##?
 
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Your original equations are incorrect. ##\theta## is not a vectorl where are your unit vetors i these equations?
 
Chestermiller said:
Your original equations are incorrect. ##\theta## is not a vectorl where are your unit vetors i these equations?
Yeah, no vectors, just the parametric equations of motion given. So what's wrong now?
 
doktorwho said:
Yeah, no vectors, just the parametric equations of motion given. So what's wrong now?
If you are going to determine the velocity vector, you need to start out by expressing the position vector as ##\vec{r}=r\vec{i}_r(\theta)## and taking into account the fact that ##\vec{i}_r## is a function of ##\theta##, that ##\theta## is a function of time, and that derivative of ##\vec{i}_r## with respect to ##\theta## can be expressed in terms of ##\vec{i}_{\theta}##.
 
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Chestermiller said:
If you are going to determine the velocity vector, you need to start out by expressing the position vector as ##\vec{r}=r\vec{i}_r(\theta)## and taking into account the fact that ##\vec{i}_r## is a function of ##\theta##, that ##\theta## is a function of time, and that derivative of ##\vec{i}_r## with respect to ##\theta## can be expressed in terms of ##\vec{i}_{\theta}##.
So the polar coordinate,
##\vec r(t)=ae^{kt}\vec e_r##
##θ=kt##
##\vec v(t)=\dot r\vec e_r + r\dot θ\vec e_θ##
##\vec v(t)=ake^{kt}\vec e_r + ae^{kt}k\vec e_θ##
##v(r)=\sqrt2r##
This should be it.
 
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