Did I set up my integral correctly?

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The discussion focuses on setting up a triple integral to find the volume of a solid in the first octant, bounded above by the plane x + 2y + 3z = 6 and laterally by the cylinder x² + y² = 4. The correct setup involves integrating with z's lower bound at 0, as the solid is confined to the first octant. Concerns were raised about using z = x² + y² - 4, which was deemed inappropriate since it does not relate to the problem's constraints. Ultimately, the established integral was confirmed as correct, affirming that the lower bound for z should indeed be zero. The conversation highlights the importance of understanding the geometric relationships in the problem.
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Homework Statement


use triple integral to find volume of the solid in the first octant that is bounded above byx+2y+3z=6 and laterally by the clyinder x^2+y^2=4

Homework Equations

The Attempt at a Solution


From the given plane I got:
Z=2-\frac{1} {3}x-\frac{2} {3}y
from the given Cylinder i got:
y=\sqrt{4-x^2}

since its only interested in the first octant, lower bounds should all be zero.

so I get \int_{x=0}^2\int_{y=0}^\sqrt{4-x^2} \int_{z=0}^{2-\frac{1} {3}x-\frac{2} {3}y} \,dz \, dy \, dx

my concern is with Z's lower bound, I think it should be 0 as well, but if using z=x^2+y^2-4 seems like also okay, but being this way, this cylinder became a different solid, it became an infinite paraboloid. so that means I can't just set z=x^2+y^2-4 ? because the Z value of an infinite cylinder does not depend on x or y?
 
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qq545282501 said:

Homework Statement


use triple integral to find volume of the solid in the first octant that is bounded above byx+2y+3z=6 and laterally by the clyinder x^2+y^2=4

Homework Equations

The Attempt at a Solution


From the given plane I got:
Z=2-\frac{1} {3}x-\frac{2} {3}y
from the given Cylinder i got:
y=\sqrt{4-x^2}

since its only interested in the first octant, lower bounds should all be zero.

so I get \int_{x=0}^2\int_{y=0}^\sqrt{4-x^2} \int_{z=0}^{2-\frac{1} {3}x-\frac{2} {3}y} \,dz \, dy \, dx
Looks fine to me.
qq545282501 said:
my concern is with Z's lower bound, I think it should be 0 as well
Yes. You're in the first octant, where ##x \ge 0, y \ge 0##, and ##z \ge 0##.
qq545282501 said:
, but if using z=x^2+y^2-4 seems like also okay
No, it's not. The equation of the cylinder is ##x^2 + y^2 = 4##. z is completely arbitrary, so you can't just stick it in the equation.
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, but being this way, this cylinder became a different solid, it became an infinite paraboloid. so that means I can't just set z=x^2+y^2-4 ? because the Z value of an infinite cylinder does not depend on x or y?
 
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qq545282501 said:

Homework Statement


use triple integral to find volume of the solid in the first octant that is bounded above byx+2y+3z=6 and laterally by the clyinder x^2+y^2=4

Homework Equations

The Attempt at a Solution


From the given plane I got:
Z=2-\frac{1} {3}x-\frac{2} {3}y
from the given Cylinder i got:
y=\sqrt{4-x^2}

since its only interested in the first octant, lower bounds should all be zero.

so I get \int_{x=0}^2\int_{y=0}^\sqrt{4-x^2} \int_{z=0}^{2-\frac{1} {3}x-\frac{2} {3}y} \,dz \, dy \, dx

my concern is with Z's lower bound, I think it should be 0 as well, but if using z=x^2+y^2-4 seems like also okay, but being this way, this cylinder became a different solid, it became an infinite paraboloid. so that means I can't just set z=x^2+y^2-4 ? because the Z value of an infinite cylinder does not depend on x or y?

The "equation" ##z = x^2+y^2-4## has no connection to the problem, because the lowest point on the plane and the curve ##x^2+y^2=4## has positive ##z##. Therefore, the lowest value of ##z## is ##z = 0## and the top face of the cylinder does not come down that far. In short, you setup is correct.

BTW: thanks for using a typed version, which in this case is do-able because no diagrams are needed.
 
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got it. thank you all.
 
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