Differential Equations - Method of Undetermined Coefficients

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The discussion revolves around solving a differential equation using the method of undetermined coefficients, specifically focusing on the equation y'' - 2y' - 3y = -3te^(-t).

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to find a particular solution and is uncertain about the correct form to use due to the presence of the term -3te^(-t). Some participants suggest using unknown coefficients in the form of a polynomial multiplied by e^(-t) and discuss the implications of the homogeneous solution on the choice of yp.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively engaging with the problem, offering suggestions for the form of the particular solution. There is a recognition of the need for multiple coefficients in the proposed solution, and some clarification on the necessity of certain terms is being explored.

Contextual Notes

The original poster has successfully found the homogeneous solution but is struggling with the non-homogeneous part due to the complexity introduced by the additional t term. There is a consideration of how existing solutions to the homogeneous equation affect the choice of the particular solution.

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Homework Statement


I've been having problems with a number of these things, here's the first one:
y'' -2y' -3y = -3te-t


Homework Equations


I know that the general solution will be
y = yh + yp
where yh is the general solution to the homogeneous equation, and yp
is the particular solution of the non-homogeneous equation.

The Attempt at a Solution


I got the homogeneous solutions very easily, but I'm tricked by how to solve for yp. I understand the principle of the solution if the right side of the equation was simply -3e-t, but when the extra t is thrown in there, my understanding breaks down.

I tried yp=t2e-t, differentiated twice, and then input these expressions into the equation. I just realized that I was supposed to use an unknown coefficient (A we'll call it) with my guess at yp. Since the terms on the right side are a product, will I just use A, or will I need some B as well? Thanks for any help.
 
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You need to use unknown coefficients, in plural :wink:. Try the solution in the form yp=(at2+bt+c)e-t.

ehild
 
IF e^{-t} were not already a solution to the associated homogeneous equation, since the right side is te^{-t}, you would try y_p= (At+ B)e^{-t}. Because e^{-t} IS a solution to the associated homogeneous equation, you should try y_p= (At^2+ Bt)e^{-t}.

(You don't really need the "c" in ehild's suggestion. It wouldn't hurt, but you would find that c= 0.)
 
Thanks y'all! I'll be trying a little later this afternoon.
 

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