Dipole Antenna - Effective Area

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The discussion focuses on calculating the effective area (Aeff) for short dipole antennas with lengths of λ/60 and λ/2, using the gain values provided. The formulas for Aeff and physical area are correctly identified, but participants express confusion over the lack of a numerical wavelength value needed for calculations. Despite this, it is noted that the effective area of the λ/60 dipole is not significantly different from the half-wave dipole due to its gain. Participants also highlight the small radiation resistance of the short dipole, which limits its practical use. The conversation concludes with concerns about the clarity of the problem statement and the surprisingly small area values obtained.
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Homework Statement



Determine the effective area (Aeff) for a short dipole with L = λ/60 and λ/2 dipole. If the wires used for dipoles has radii a = 1 cm compare Aeff with the physical area.

G(short dipole) = 1.5
G(half wave dipole) = 1.64

Homework Equations



Aeff = G* λ2/4*pi

The Attempt at a Solution



Aeff = 1.64* λ2/4*pi = L2/pi * 1.64 = 0.052L2

Aphysical = pi*(a2 + a*L) = pi*10-4 + 1*10-2*L

What is confusing me is that I cannot seem to get a numerical answer for this problem even though it is apparently possible. I'm sure I just keep over looking something simple and making this easy problem harder than it has to be.
 
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Axis001 said:

Homework Statement



Determine the effective area (Aeff) for a short dipole with L = λ/60 and λ/2 dipole. If the wires used for dipoles has radii a = 1 cm compare Aeff with the physical area.

G(short dipole) = 1.5
G(half wave dipole) = 1.64

Homework Equations



Aeff = G* λ2/4*pi

The Attempt at a Solution



Aeff = 1.64* λ2/4*pi = L2/pi * 1.64 = 0.052L2

Aphysical = pi*(a2 + a*L) = pi*10-4 + 1*10-2*L

What is confusing me is that I cannot seem to get a numerical answer for this problem even though it is apparently possible. I'm sure I just keep over looking something simple and making this easy problem harder than it has to be.

All your formulas are correct. You need the actual value of λ to get a numerical answer for the effective areas for both antennas.

Interestingly, the actual effective area of the λ/60 dipole is practically speaking not a function of L. Since the gain is 1.5, that makes the effective area not much less than that of the half-wave one! (However, the short dipole has a teeny-tiny radiation resistance, going as (L/λ)2., making it more or les useless.)
 
That is what is baffling me is there is no provided value for wavelength but my professor insists that a numerical value is possible. Since the two areas should be equivalent I set up a polynomial equation with them and got a L of 0.1135 m. But when I solve for the areas I get 4.1077 x 10^-3 m for effective area and 3.9 x 10 -3 m for the physical area. The fact that they are so close makes since but the area values seems far to small.
 
Is the wording exactly what you posted? The wording is not in good English ...
"Determine the effective area (Aeff) for a short dipole with L = λ/60 and λ/2 dipole".
Other than that I'm baffled too!
 
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