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The discussion revolves around the behavior of a half-bridge transformer-isolated buck converter, specifically focusing on the voltage across the transformer when both FETs are off. Participants explore the implications of this condition on the circuit's operation, including the roles of ideal transformers and diodes.

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  • One participant notes that when both Q1 and Q2 FETs are off, the voltage V_T is assumed to be zero due to the disconnection of one terminal of the transformer.
  • Another participant explains that V_T is zero because the primary current must also be zero, leading to zero net secondary current in an ideal transformer scenario.
  • It is suggested that equal and opposite currents in the secondary windings can lead to a net zero current, allowing the load current to freewheel through the diodes D3 and D4.
  • Some participants discuss the role of magnetizing inductance, noting that it complicates the situation, as it can allow for continued conduction after the switches are off.
  • One participant clarifies that while the inclusion of magnetizing inductance does not change the fundamental behavior, it affects how current divides between the diodes D3 and D4.
  • There is a mention of the necessity of diodes D1 and D2 in the circuit, with references to specific sections in the textbook for further details.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the implications of including magnetizing inductance and the behavior of the circuit when both FETs are off. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the exact effects of these factors on the voltage V_T.

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Participants highlight that the discussion assumes an ideal transformer, and the presence of magnetizing and leakage inductance introduces additional complexity that is not fully resolved in the conversation.

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Hi,

I'm working through a power electronics book and I'm looking at a half-bridge transformer-isolated buck converter (attached page). I've run into something that I can't fully understand even though the author presents it as something obvious. At 0 < t < D*Ts, the Q1 FET is conducting, and the Q2 FET is off. In this case V_T = V_g - V_cb, where V_cb is the voltage across the capacitor C_b. I can work out using inductor volt-second balance that V_T = 0.5*Vg during this period, as the waveform (second from top) shows, but only if I can accept that when both Q1 and Q2 are off, V_T=0.

When both Q1 and Q2 are off, one terminal of the transformer is disconnected. How does this lead to the voltage V_T going to zero?

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This is the Erickson text right? The short answer is it is zero because with both FETs open v_s(t)=0 and |v_t(t)|=n*v_s(t), assuming the diodes are ideal.

(I can't believe it took me like 4 edits to get that ideal transformer + rectifier equation right... I am mostly sure it is right now. :)

It is not that obvious to figure out why v_s(t)=0 and to do it you'll need to solve a system of equations which includes a volt-second balance on L.

Use the technique in this app note when they solve for the conventional asymmetric half-bridge.

http://www.fairchildsemi.com/an/AN/AN-4153.pdf
 
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ptxiao said:
When both Q1 and Q2 are off, one terminal of the transformer is disconnected. How does this lead to the voltage V_T going to zero?
It's effectively forced to zero via the secondary. When both Q1 and Q2 are off the primary current must be zero*. For an ideal transformer if the primary current is zero then the net secondary current must also be zero. For the split secondary winding however, we can achieve a net zero current if we have equal and opposite currents in each half of the secondary, hence the load current freewheels through both D3 and D4 in parallel. The requirement of zero net current means that the transformer effectively forces them to share. (Note that the D3 half of the current flows out of the "dot" while the D4 half of the current flows into the "dot, hence no net current)

So with both D3 and D4 forward biased we can do a simple KVL around the loop contain D3, D4 and the two secondaries, and determine that the total secondary voltage must be [itex]V_{D3} - V_{D4}[/itex], which of course is 0 - 0 for ideal diodes and close to zero for real ones. Hope that helps.

*This is assuming an ideal transformer of course. If you allow for magnetizing inductance then the situation is more complicated, with D1/D2 allowing conduction to continue after the switches are off.
 
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uart said:
*This is assuming an ideal transformer of course. If you allow for magnetizing inductance then the situation is more complicated, with D1/D2 allowing conduction to continue after the switches are off.

If you include Lm it still works as described. Notice Fig 6.21 of the attachment includes i_m(t). It's true that di_m(t)/dt=0 when Q1 and Q2 are off, but i_m(t) itself can be nonzero during this time.

Incidentally this is also why D1 & D2 are necessary. You can see the final blurb on them in the paragraph right before 6.3.2 in the text or this Google book link.

http://books.google.com/books?id=S9...ge&q=erickson power electronics 6.3.2&f=false
 
It looks like you have to actually click on section 6.3.1 in the table on contents in the link provided to see the text from the book. Not sure why the link itself didn't work.
 
Sorry that link doesn't seem to be loading properly for me (or maybe loading slow), so I can't see the images. But not to worry, as I know exactly what you're talking about. :)

es1 said:
If you include Lm it still works as described.
Yes you're right, it would still work (almost) as described. The difference would be that the free-wheeling current would not divide exactly evenly between D3 and D4, with the current difference accounting for the magnetizing current (referred to the secondary). I was just trying to avoid explaining this for a simple solution relevant to the OP.

I was in error however when I said that inclusion of magnetizing inductance would cause D1/D2 to conduct after the switches were turned off. It is of course the inclusion of transformer leakage inductance that would give this outcome.
 

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