Distribution of charge in hydrogen atom

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The discussion revolves around the charge distribution in a hydrogen atom, specifically focusing on a model where a positive point charge is at the center and a negative charge is distributed around it according to a specified exponential function. Participants are attempting to find the constant in the charge distribution while grappling with the implications of electrical neutrality.

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  • Participants are discussing the integration of the charge distribution to find the total negative charge and questioning the validity of the model used. There are attempts to clarify the dimensionality of the charge distribution and how to properly integrate it over three-dimensional space.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing insights and questioning each other's understanding of the charge distribution and integration methods. Some guidance has been offered regarding the relationship between probability density and charge density, but there is no explicit consensus or resolution yet.

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There are indications that some participants are unsure about the assumptions underlying the model and the appropriateness of using Bohr's radius in this context. Additionally, there are reminders about the forum's policy against providing direct answers to homework questions.

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Suppose the hydrogen atom consists of a positive point charge (+e), located in the center of the atom, which is surrounded by a negative charge (-e), distributed in the space around it.

The space distribution of the negative charge changes according to the law p=Ce^(−2r/R), where C is a constant, r is the distance from the center of the atom, and R is Bohr's radius.

Find the value of the constant C by using the electrical neutrality of the atom.

I don't think I understand the charge distribution very well. I tried integrating the total negative charge of the sphere ( atom ), since I know it's equal to ( -e ).
 
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Please show us what you did when you integrated the distribution.

Edit: the model is really, really bad by the way, but for the sake of the problem, let us assume it is not.
 
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Sorry about the format. I don't know if the last line makes sense.
In the way I understand it the negative charge in a point should be p = Ce^(-2r/R). However I think i am wrong. Thank you in advance.
 
You cannot do it like an integral in one dimension, the distribution is three dimensional.

Peter Velkov said:
Ce(−2r/R)
I see now that you really meant e^(-2r/R) with e being the base of the natural logarithm and not multiplication by the charge e. This is normally denoted by ^ or if you do not find that symbol by writing out "exp" for "exponential function".
 
Yes, it's three dimensional, for a three dimensional point. But can't I integrate it for the whole radius, and then use the standard volume formula?
Furthermore, I know Bohr's radius is the mean of the orbit, but can it be used to derive the radius of the atom.
 
Peter Velkov said:
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Sorry about the format. I don't know if the last line makes sense.
In the way I understand it the negative charge in a point should be p = Ce^(-2r/R). However I think i am wrong. Thank you in advance.
The modulus square of a wavefunction, ##p(r)## in your notation, describes the probability density of the electron and it has a dimension of inverse volume. You can therefore build the charge density ##\rho(r)## by multiplying ##p(r)## with the electron charge ##e##, so ##\rho(r) = e p(r)##. The total charge is then just the integral of this quantity over all space, not just until certain radius like you did there.
 
Did anyone get an answer for that? P L E A S E
 
Lucas Silva said:
Did anyone get an answer for that? P L E A S E
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