Do Lx and Lz Angular Momentum Operators Exhibit an Uncertainty Relation?

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The discussion revolves around the uncertainty relation between the angular momentum operators Lx and Lz in quantum mechanics. Participants are exploring the commutation relations of these operators and their implications for uncertainty.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the assumption that non-commuting operators imply an uncertainty relation. There are attempts to calculate the commutator [Lx, Ly] and its implications for the uncertainty relation. Questions arise regarding the calculation process and potential errors.

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Some participants are actively working through the calculations and sharing their reasoning. One participant indicates they resolved their issue after identifying a minor mistake, suggesting some progress in understanding the problem.

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There is mention of missing relevant equations and the need for specific calculations to clarify misunderstandings. The discussion reflects a focus on the mathematical properties of angular momentum operators within the constraints of quantum mechanics.

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The operators used for the x and y components of angular momentum are:

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Show that Lx and Lz obey an uncertainty relation




2. No relevant equations.




The Attempt at a Solution



I'm going on that the assumption that if LxLy - LyLz does not equal zero then they don't commute and have an uncertainty relation. However I can only get this equal to zero and don't know how to show the uncertainty rrelation if I achieve one.
 
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leviathanX777 said:
I'm going on that the assumption that if LxLy - LyLz does not equal zero then they don't commute and have an uncertainty relation. However I can only get this equal to zero and don't know how to show the uncertainty rrelation if I achieve one.

if you mean:

[Lx, Ly] = LxLy - LyLx

then it does not equal to zero, angular moment is the cross product: r x p

so Lx = y.Pz - z.Py Ly = x.Pz - z.Px

where x and y and z are position operators and Px, Py and Pz are momentum operators, stick those into your commutator and try again, you should end up with

[Lx, Ly] = ihLz

where h is the reduced Planck constant. and Lz is the Angular momentum operator for z axis
 
It would also help if you showed us your calculation of the commutator so we can see where your error is.
 
Ah I got it solved in the end. Just made a minor mistake. Thanks!
 

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