Dot product issue. system of equations

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The discussion revolves around solving an elastic collision problem involving two balls with different masses and initial velocities. Participants emphasize the use of conservation laws for momentum and kinetic energy to find the final velocities after the collision. There is confusion regarding the need for matrix operations, with suggestions that direct substitution of known values into the equations is sufficient. The conversation highlights the importance of correctly applying physics principles without overcomplicating the solution process. Ultimately, the focus is on simplifying the approach to solve for the unknown velocities effectively.
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Homework Statement


As illustrated, a ball of mass m_1=0.25 kg and velocity V_(0_1=+5.00 m/s) collides head on with a ball of mass m_2=0.8 kg that is initially at rest. No external forces act on the balls. If the collision is elastic, what are the velocities of the balls after they collide?


Homework Equations


V_(0_1 )
p_i=p_f
〖KE〗_i=〖KE〗_f



The Attempt at a Solution


m_1 v_(1_i )+0=m_2 v_(2_f )+m_1 v_(1_f )
1/2 m_1 〖v_(1_i )〗^2=1/2 m_1 〖v_(1_f )〗^2+1/2 m_2 〖v_(2_f )〗^2
A ⃑*B ⃑=■(i ̂&j ̂&k ̂@A_x&A_y&A_z@B_x&B_y&B_z )=|■(A_y&A_z@B_y&B_x )| i ̂+
I get a total brain fart once I plug it into the matrix...? :(
 
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bcddd214 said:
A ⃑*B ⃑=■(i ̂&j ̂&k ̂@A_x&A_y&A_z@B_x&B_y&B_z )=|■(A_y&A_z@B_y&B_x )| i ̂+
I get a total brain fart once I plug it into the matrix...? :(

That last line doesn't seem to render well on my computer, but why do you need to plug anything into a matrix? You have:
m_1 v_(1_i )+0=m_2 v_(2_f )+m_1 v_(1_f )

and:

1/2 m_1 〖v_(1_i )〗^2=1/2 m_1 〖v_(1_f )〗^2+1/2 m_2 〖v_(2_f )〗^2

You know v_1_i, and you just need to solve for either v_1_f or v_2_f. Expressing one of them in terms of the other using the first equation, then plugging the result into the second, should give you the result.
 
I am sooo physics paranoid. I hit the table and freeze because I keep getting it wrong for some reason.

A*B=A_x, A_y, A_z= |A_y, A_z|i
_____B_x, B_y, B_z |B_y, B_x|

I get here, I seem to be on a roll, and then just freeze. :(
 
I still don't understand why you're using matricies. What's A and B? Why are you multiplying them together?

You already got 2 equations, and you have only 2 unknowns. Direct substitution should be all you need to get the answer. If you're trying to use Gaussian elimination, it doesn't work because this isn't a linear system of equations.
 
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