Drawing Free Body Diagrams for rope tension

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves analyzing a static equilibrium scenario with a man standing on a scaffold supported by two ropes. The objective is to determine the tension in each rope, given the masses involved and the position of the man on the scaffold.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to visualize the problem by drawing a free body diagram, indicating forces acting on the scaffold and the man. They express confusion regarding the role of torque and the choice of pivot point. Some participants suggest balancing torques and forces to find the tensions in the ropes.

Discussion Status

Participants are exploring different methods to analyze the problem, including balancing forces and torques. There is some guidance on setting up equations based on equilibrium conditions, but no consensus has been reached on the final values for the tensions.

Contextual Notes

The discussion includes considerations of static equilibrium and the need to account for the distribution of weight and forces in the system. The original poster expresses uncertainty about the setup and calculations involved.

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Homework Statement


A man of mass 64.2 kg stands on a scaffold supported by a vertical rope at each end. The scaffold has a mass of 23.2 kg and is 3.2 m long. Suppose the man stands to the right from the middle of the scaffold that is a distance one sixth of the length of the scaffold. What is the tension in the right rope? What is the tension in the left rope?

The Attempt at a Solution


im always confused on how exactly to draw out the scenarios and start the question. For this particular problem i got this far:
1. straight bar for scaffold with an arrow pointing down, half way (the center of gravity)
2. a man closer to the right rope, with an arrow pointing down, (his weight F=mg)
3. the two ropes on either side are tension (arrows pointing up)

Now I am not sure if there would be torque, because one rope has more force than the other, if so where would the pivot point be?? or if i should some how solve it be equating the tensions since the system is static??
Help would be greatly appreciated
 
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If it is in equilibrium (it is), then the ∑ F and the ∑ T are both 0.

So choose an end and balance out the torque.
 
so the torque applied (right rope) = torque(scaffold) + torque(man)
Fr = Fr + Fr
Fr = (23.2)(9.81)(3.2/2) + (64.2)(9.81)(3.2*2/3)
F = 1707.7/3.2
F = 533.66 N
so the tension in the right rope is 534 N??
 
I suppose you mean that

∑ F = 0 = Tl + TR - ∑ m*g

You should have the equation for the torque about end the man is farthest from.

And that should solve for the T of the rope he is closest to - the right Tension. And your answer looks OK.

Then you can figure the other tension directly from the first ∑ F.
 

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