EDTA Complexometric Titration failed why?

  • Thread starter Thread starter keags0
  • Start date Start date
  • Tags Tags
    Edta Titration
Click For Summary

Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the challenges faced during the standardization of an EDTA solution in a titration experiment. Participants explore potential reasons for the failure to reach the endpoint in the titration of calcium carbonate with EDTA, examining procedural details and chemical interactions involved in the process.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant describes the procedure, noting that the blank titration was successful while the standardization titration failed, with over 80 mL of EDTA used without reaching the endpoint.
  • Another participant questions whether the calcium carbonate was fully dissolved and suggests that the amount of HCl used may have been insufficient for complete reaction.
  • A participant confirms that the calcium carbonate was completely dissolved and mentions that the EDTA concentration was approximately 0.05M, suggesting that the EDTA concentration might not be adequate for the amount of calcium present.
  • Concerns are raised about the concentration of HCl used, with a suggestion to check stoichiometry and the adequacy of the buffer to neutralize excess HCl, which could affect the pH during titration.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the adequacy of the HCl concentration and its impact on the titration process. There is no consensus on the specific cause of the titration failure, and multiple competing hypotheses remain under consideration.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include potential inaccuracies in the HCl concentration, the adequacy of the buffer solution, and the assumptions regarding the EDTA concentration. The discussion does not resolve these uncertainties.

keags0
Messages
2
Reaction score
0
In my attempt at standardizing an EDTA solution, the blank solution titration was successful, but the standardization titration failed... here's the procedure of my experiment with some details:

We first prepared a titration blank by using 35mL distilled water, 5mL of pH10 buffer, 5 drops of Eriochrome Black T indicator, which made a black solution. We then added 15 drops of 0.03M magnesium chloride to the solution, which turned it red. We titrated this using an unknown concentration of EDTA solution.

The next part of the experiment involved using 0.2-0.3g of calcium carbonate (dissolved with 1 mL 3M HCl and 4 mL DI water). We mixed this solution with the indicator solution prepared in the titration of the blank. We titrated this solution using EDTA, expecting somewhere between 30-50 mL to be needed. We went over 80 mL in 3 consecutive trials, and never ended up reaching the endpoint of the titration.

Any ideas as to where our experiment could have gone wrong?

Thanks!
 
Chemistry news on Phys.org
Was the calcium carbonate dissolved? As far as I can tell there was not enough HCl for the reaction.

You should try to titrate much smaller sample of calcium, just to check. Could be EDTA concentration was too low. 0.01M solutions are routinely used (compare www.titrations.info/EDTA-titration-solutions), that would be not enough even to titrate half of the calcium used with 80 mL of titrant.
 
Yes, the calcium carbonate was completely dissolved. Also - the instructor told us the EDTA concentration was somewhere around 0.05M once the lab was over.

What was odd was that the class that had the lab the day before me had no problems titrating, whereas in my lab not a single person could complete the titration successfully.

I'm guessing it has nothing to do with the EDTA solution itself, or anything used in the indicator solution since the blank titration went as predicted... but thanks for your input. Any other ideas?
 
Last edited:
If CaCO3 dissolved completely, concentration of HCl was was not 3M. Check the stoichiometry.

If concentration of HCl was not 3M, you can't be sure there was enough buffer to neutralize excess HCl, so you have no idea if pH was suitable for titration.
 

Similar threads

  • · Replies 8 ·
Replies
8
Views
3K
  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
17K
Replies
4
Views
7K
Replies
1
Views
3K
  • · Replies 1 ·
Replies
1
Views
2K
  • · Replies 6 ·
Replies
6
Views
15K
  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
4K
  • · Replies 14 ·
Replies
14
Views
15K
  • · Replies 19 ·
Replies
19
Views
9K
  • · Replies 1 ·
Replies
1
Views
3K