Efficiency of an imaginary ideal-gas engine cycle

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The discussion focuses on deriving the thermal efficiency of an ideal-gas engine cycle represented in a PV diagram. The key equation for efficiency is presented as η = 1 - γ (V1/V2 - 1)/(P3/P2 - 1). Participants emphasize the importance of using heat flows (Qin and Qout) rather than work done to simplify the calculation of efficiency. The ideal gas law is suggested as a tool to express temperatures in terms of pressures and volumes, aiding in the derivation of the efficiency formula. Overall, the conversation highlights the need for clarity in applying thermodynamic principles to solve the problem effectively.
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Homework Statement


The figure represents a simplified PV diagram of the Joule ideal-gas cycle. All processes are quasi-static, and C_P is constant. Prove that the thermal efficiency of an engine performing this cycle is
\eta = 1 - \gamma \frac{\frac{V_{1}}{V_{2}} - 1}{\frac{P_{3}}{P_{2}} - 1}
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Homework Equations


PV = RT
\gamma = \frac{C_P}{C_V}
dE = dq + dw (should have strokes through the d's on dq and dw, but I don't know how to latex inexact differentials)
\eta = \frac{|W|}{|q_{in}|}
On adiabatic processes,
TV^{\gamma - 1} = constant
PV^{\gamma} = constant


The Attempt at a Solution


First of all, \eta = \frac{|W|}{|q_{in}|}

1->2
We have dP = 0 and P = constant
W = \int^{V_{2}}_{V_{1}} dV
W = -P_{2} (V_{2} - V_{1})
Since this is an ideal gas, we know:
dq = C_{P} dT
Therefore,
q = C_{P} (T_{2} - T{1})


2->3
We have dV = 0 and dw = 0 since the process is isochoric.
Therefore,
dE = dq
Since this is an ideal gas dE = C_{V} dT
Therefore,
dq = C_{V} dT
q = C_{V} (T_{3} - T{2})
By hypothesis,
w = 0

3->1
This is an adiabatic process, so dq = 0
Therefore,
dE = dw
Since this is an ideal gas dE = C_{V} dT
Therefore,
W = \int^{T_{1}}_{T_{3}} C_{V} dT
W = C_{V} (T_{1} - T_{3})
Also, by hypothesis,
q = 0

Plugging all this into the equation for \eta, we get:
\eta = \frac{P_{2} (V_{2} - V_{1} ) - C_{V} (T_{1} - T_{3})}{C_{P} (T_{2} - T_{1}) + C_{V} (T_{3} - T_{2})}

Now, I don't know how to manipulate this to get it in the form that the problem asked for.

Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
 
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Your solution does not provide a solution for T1.

The key here is the adiabatic condition:

PV^\gamma = K

Try applying the adiabatic condition to find the work done from 3 to 1.

AM
 
Sorry to revive a dead thread but I still can't figure it out.
 
belalegosi said:
Sorry to revive a dead thread but I still can't figure it out.

Sorry to do likewise but I'm in the same boat.
 
You'll need to show how far you got with solving the problem before you can receive help. That's our forum policy, and the reason why belalegosi got no help last March.
 
In looking at this again, there is a much easier approach than the one taken by the original poster. You do not need to use the adiabatic condition at all. You don't have to calculate the work done either. Just the heat flows. Use the expression for efficiency in terms of Qin and Qout only.

Qin and Qout can be determined as the OP has done. That will give you an expression for efficiency involving T1, T2 and T3. Then use the ideal gas equation to work out expressions for the temperatures in terms of P and V.

AM
 
Jacobpm64 said:
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Plugging all this into the equation for \eta, we get:
\eta = \frac{P_{2} (V_{2} - V_{1} ) - C_{V} (T_{1} - T_{3})}{C_{P} (T_{2} - T_{1}) + C_{V} (T_{3} - T_{2})}

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You need only the absorbed heat in the denominator, Cv(T3-T2).

PV =RT and R = Cp-Cv.

ehild
 
Jacobpm64 said:
Plugging all this into the equation for \eta, we get:
\eta = \frac{P_{2} (V_{2} - V_{1} ) - C_{V} (T_{1} - T_{3})}{C_{P} (T_{2} - T_{1}) + C_{V} (T_{3} - T_{2})}
As ehild has pointed out, the denominator is Qin which does not include Q_{1-2}. The latter represents the heat flow out of the system.

To find the efficiency, use \eta = W/Q_{in} = \frac{Q_{in} - Q_{out}}{Q_{in}} = 1 - \frac{Q_{out}}{Q_{in}}

In this case Q_{in} is the heat flow from 2-3 and Q_{out} is the heat flow from 1 to 2. Using the ideal gas law to put T1/T2 in terms of V1/V2 and T3/T2 in terms of P3/P2.

AM
 
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