Einstein's Equivalence Principle: What's New?

In summary, the conversation discusses the equivalence principle and its relation to Newtonian mechanics and Einstein's theory of special relativity. The equivalence principle states that the laws of physics are the same in any inertial frame, which also applies to Newton's laws of motion. However, Einstein's special relativity extends this principle to include electromagnetism and introduces the concept of a universal speed limit, the speed of light. Furthermore, the conversation also touches on Einstein's general relativity, which includes gravity in the principle of relativity. The summary concludes with a question about the mathematical expression of the equivalence principle, and a clarification that it refers to the invariance of equations in different inertial frames.
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The equivalence principle states that the laws of physics are the same in any inertial frame. Translating this into mathematics language, the equivalence principle states that a given equation should retain its form when one transform between the coordinates of two intertial frames, correct?

But isn't that exactly what Newtonian mechanics state? I mean, if we have two inertial frames, Newton's laws will hold in both of them. Furthermore, the equations of motion will have the same form in both of them.

So what's new in the discovery by Einstein?
 
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This is not the equivalence principle but the principle of special relativity.

The usual way, special relativity is almost always presented in undergrad textbooks by simply copying Einstein's ingenious approach of his famous paper of 1905 is fine, because you come pretty quickly to the important physics, finally summarized in the Lorentz transformation, which substitutes the Galileo transformation of Newtonian physics.

There's, however, an approach that's a bit more cumbersome but provides great a great insight. You just take the principle of special relativity and some other symmetry principles about space and time (homogeneity of time and space; each inertial observer should find a spatial geometry obeying the laws of Euclidean geometry, implying also isotropy of space), and ask how the corresponding transformation laws between space-time coordinates of inertial observers might look like. The result of a somewhat lengthy analysis is that there are indeed only two possibilities, namely Galilei-Newton or Einstein-Minkowski spacetime, and as empirical evidence shows, the latter is a more comprehensive desription of spacetime.

The equivalence principle goes further and includes gravity into the game. In short, Einstein's "strong equivalence principle" says that at any point in spacetime there's only a local inertial reference frame, where gravity is approximately absent. These local inertial frames are realized by sufficiently small freely falling reference frames like the International Space Station. With some more mathematical precision this leads quite immediately to Einstein's General Relativity.
 
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davidge said:
The equivalence principle states that the laws of physics are the same in any inertial frame...
That's the principle of relativity and it is the same for Newton and Einstein's Special Relativity (it's the first postulate).
So what's new in the discovery by Einstein?
The second postulate: the speed of light is the same in all non-accelerating frames.
 
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These responses were really helpful. Thanks.
 
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davidge said:
The equivalence principle states that the laws of physics are the same in any inertial frame. Translating this into mathematics language, the equivalence principle states that a given equation should retain its form when one transform between the coordinates of two intertial frames, correct?

But isn't that exactly what Newtonian mechanics state?
It isn't. What you described above is in fact Einstein's principle of relativity.
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I mean, if we have two inertial frames, Newton's laws will hold in both of them. Furthermore, the equations of motion will have the same form in both of them.

So what's new in the discovery by Einstein?
Right. Pay attention to what you wrote, you said "Newton's laws" and "equations of motion", but those are not the only laws of physics. There were other laws, such as electromagnetism (Maxwell's equations), which were known not to be invariant under Galilean transformations. By replacing the Galilean transformation with the Lorentz transformation Einstein expanded the principle of relativity to include the laws of electromagnetism in addition to the laws of motion.
 
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Pay attention to what you wrote, you said "Newton's laws" and "equations of motion", but those are not the only laws of physics. There were other laws, such as electromagnetism (Maxwell's equations), which were known not to be invariant under Galilean transformations. By replacing the Galilean transformation with the Lorentz transformation Einstein expanded the principle of relativity to include the laws of electromagnetism in addition to the laws of motion.
Oh yea. I think I should have made clear that I was talking about the laws of nature being the same in all inertial frames, not concerning on what kind of transformation one has to do in order to get the equations form invariant.
 
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By the way, is it correct to say that "the laws of nature being the same in all inertial frames", when translated to mathematics, is to say that the equations expressing the laws of nature should be vectorial?
 

1. What is Einstein's Equivalence Principle?

The Equivalence Principle, proposed by Albert Einstein in 1907, states that there is no experiment that can distinguish between the effects of gravity and acceleration. This means that in a small region of spacetime, the effects of gravity and acceleration are equivalent.

2. Has the Equivalence Principle been proven?

While the Equivalence Principle has been tested and confirmed in many experiments, it is still a fundamental principle in physics and cannot be proven. However, its predictions have been consistently supported by observations and experiments.

3. What are the implications of the Equivalence Principle?

The Equivalence Principle has far-reaching implications in physics, including the understanding of gravity, the behavior of objects in motion, and the structure of spacetime. It also forms the basis of Einstein's theory of General Relativity.

4. Is the Equivalence Principle still relevant today?

Yes, the Equivalence Principle continues to be an important concept in modern physics and is often used in research related to gravity, cosmology, and the search for a unifying theory of physics. It has also been tested in more precise experiments, further confirming its validity.

5. What recent developments have been made in relation to the Equivalence Principle?

Recent developments related to the Equivalence Principle include experiments conducted on Earth and in space to test its validity with higher precision, as well as theoretical work on its implications for other areas of physics. Some researchers are also exploring the possibility of modifying or extending the Equivalence Principle to better explain certain phenomena, such as dark matter and dark energy.

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