Electric Field Direction at 14.1 cm from a Charged Cylinder and Conducting Shell

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The discussion centers around the direction of the electric field at a specified distance from a charged non-conducting cylinder and a surrounding conducting shell. The charge density of the cylinder varies with radius, and participants are analyzing the implications of this setup on the electric field direction at 14.1 cm from the central axis.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the implications of the electric field's direction based on the distance from the charged cylinder and the conducting shell's properties. There is confusion regarding whether the specified distance is inside or outside the conducting shell, leading to questions about the assumptions made in the problem.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided insights regarding the location of 14.1 cm in relation to the conducting shell, suggesting that it is outside the shell. Others have confirmed that if the conducting shell has no net charge, the electric field would point radially outward, indicating a productive direction in the discussion.

Contextual Notes

There is a noted ambiguity regarding the interpretation of the diameters provided in the problem statement, which has led to some confusion about the actual location of the electric field measurement.

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Homework Statement


A long non-conducting cylinder has a charge density ρ = αr, where α = 6.34 C/m4 and r is in meters. Concentric around it is a hollow metallic cylindrical shell.

Diameter 1: 4.36 cm
Diameter 2: 10.4 cm
Diameter 3: 16 cm

What is the direction of the electric field at 14.1 cm from the central axis.

1. Points Radically Outward
2. Points radically Inward
3. Undetermined, since the firld is zero
4. The electric field is not a vector and therefore has no direction

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The Attempt at a Solution



Soo...since the question stated 14.1 cm from the central axis. this is outside of the cylinder. the electric field exists? so it would be pointing radically outward?

I choose radically outward

this is incorrect!
So at this point I am unable to come up with a reason why it is not pointing radically outward?

My next assumption is that it would be pointing in the x-axis however that is not an option, and i am unsure how to relate it to the other three options. any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thank you

 

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SpringWater said:

Homework Statement


A long non-conducting cylinder has a charge density ρ = αr, where α = 6.34 C/m4 and r is in meters. Concentric around it is a hollow metallic cylindrical shell.

Diameter 1: 4.36 cm
Diameter 2: 10.4 cm
Diameter 3: 16 cm

What is the direction of the electric field at 14.1 cm from the central axis.

1. Points Radically Outward
2. Points radically Inward
3. Undetermined, since the firld is zero
4. The electric field is not a vector and therefore has no direction

Homework Equations



The Attempt at a Solution



Soo...since the question stated 14.1 cm from the central axis. this is outside of the cylinder. the electric field exists? so it would be pointing radically outward?

I choose radically outward

this is incorrect!
So at this point I am unable to come up with a reason why it is not pointing radically outward?

My next assumption is that it would be pointing in the x-axis however that is not an option, and i am unsure how to relate it to the other three options. any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thank you
Look again at the location, 14.1 cm from the axis. Isn't that location within the conducting material of the cylindrical shell ?
 
SammyS said:
Look again at the location, 14.1 cm from the axis. Isn't that location within the conducting material of the cylindrical shell ?

The outer diameter is 16 cm. Wouldnt that mean the radius is 8cm. So 14cm is on the outside and not on the inside...unless the question is phrased incorrectly as in, 14 cm is the diameter of and 7 is the radius. But i do not think that is the case.
 
SpringWater said:
The outer diameter is 16 cm. Wouldnt that mean the radius is 8cm. So 14cm is on the outside and not on the inside...unless the question is phrased incorrectly as in, 14 cm is the diameter of and 7 is the radius. But i do not think that is the case.
You're right. I was thinking of those as radii, even though you clearly said they're diameters.

If the conducing shell has no net charge, the field beyond the shell points radially outward. -- You were correct.
 
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SammyS said:
You're right. I was thinking of those as radii, even though you clearly said they're diameters.

If the conducing shell has no net charge, the field beyond the shell points radially outward. -- You were correct.

Thank you for your help. You confirmed that the diagram provided is incorrect. The diameter was actually suppose to be labeled as radius…
 

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