Electric Field of 90° Arc of 2 Wires w/ Uniform Charge - Q/πR^2

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The discussion focuses on calculating the electric field at the origin due to two wires shaped as 90-degree arcs with uniform charge distributions. Participants emphasize the importance of using the correct charge density, noting it should be charge per length. They suggest starting with Coulomb's law instead of approximating the wires as infinitely long lines, as this is not valid at the origin. The integration process is highlighted, with a need to clarify how to incorporate π into the calculations. The conversation ultimately centers on ensuring accurate expressions and approaches for deriving the electric field.
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two wires in the shape of a 9o degrees circular arc of radius R have charges
+(-) Q distributed uniformly on them. They are positioned opposite each other in the second and 4th quadrants. Show that the electric field at the origin is
\frac{4kQ}{\pi R^2}

I tried starting with the electric field of a line
\frac{2k\lambda}{r}

\lambda=\frac{Q}{d\theta}

plugged that in, and then i wasn't sure what to do... integrate with respect to theta? but then i wasn't sure how to do that when theta was in the denom... help?
 
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You're missing a term in your charge density. Check the units -- they should be charge per length.


Anyways, for the line approximation to be useful, you have to be close enough so that the wire is effectually an infinitely long, straight line. When you're way over at the origin, the wires look neither infinitely long, nor straight.


I would go all the way back to Coulomb's law.
 
Hurkyl said:
You're missing a term in your charge density. Check the units -- they should be charge per length.


Anyways, for the line approximation to be useful, you have to be close enough so that the wire is effectually an infinitely long, straight line. When you're way over at the origin, the wires look neither infinitely long, nor straight.


I would go all the way back to Coulomb's law.

you're right... back to the drawing board
 
ok so coulumbs law... I'm not sure how to get \pi out of that...
can i say
E=\frac{kdQ}{r^2d\theta}

and then if so, can i integrate that... I'm sorry, I'm looking at it and it looks really obvious, but i can't get it to do anything...
 
Well, a lot of that expression is constant...

I don't think you have the expression right though... I still think you're missing a factor in the charge density, and you need to use the vector form.
 
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