Electric field of dipole moment

In summary: I'll have to give that one a closer look later.In summary, the conversation discussed finding the approximate electric field for points far from a solid sphere with "northern" and "southern" hemispheres carrying uniform charge densities of ##\rho_0## and ##-\rho_0## respectively. The solution involved using the dipole moment and volume integrals to calculate the electric field, which was found to be ##\mathbf E = \frac{\rho R^4 \hat z}{8 \epsilon_0 r^3}(2\cos \theta \hat r + \sin \theta \hat \theta)##. The post also mentioned checking the answer by placing the charges at the center of mass
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Homework Statement


A solid sphere, radius ##R##,is centered at the origin. The "northern" hemisphere carries a uniform charge density ##\rho_0## and the "southern" hemisphere a uniform charge density ##-\rho_0##. Find the approximate field ##\mathbf E(r,\theta)## for points far from the sphere (##r >> R##).

Homework Equations


For a dipole where ##\mathbf p## is located at the origen and points in ##z## direction the electric field is given by
##\mathbf E_{\text{dip}}(r,\theta) = \frac{p}{4\pi \epsilon r^3}(2\cos \theta \hat r + \sin \theta \hat \theta)##.

Dipole moment
##\mathbf p = \int \mathbf r' \rho(\mathbf r') d\tau'##.

The Attempt at a Solution


I think I solved this one but I'm not entirely sure so I'm hoping someone could take a look and see if I'm doing this roughly right.

The dipole has to point in the ##\hat z## direction since symmetry. Our ##\mathbf r'## vector should then be ##\mathbf r' = R\cos \theta \hat z##. So the dipole moment is
##\mathbf p = \hat z \int_S R\cos \cdot R^2\sin \theta d\theta d\phi = \pi R^3\hat z\left[ \int_0^{\pi/2} \sin 2\theta d\theta - \int_{\pi/2}^\pi \sin 2\theta d\theta \right] = 2\pi R^3\hat z##
using that the area element of an ##r=R## surface is ##R^2\sin \theta d\theta d\phi##.
Our electric field is then (only taking account of the dipole term in the multipole expansion)
##\mathbf E(r,\theta) =\frac{R^3}{2\epsilon_0 r^3}(2\cos \theta \hat r +\sin \theta \hat \theta)##.
Does this look correct? It's certainly the field of a dipole and it's stronger when ##\theta=0## than when ##\theta=\pi/2## which makes sense but I don't know how to check it really.
 
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It doesn't have the right dimension yet...
I also don't see an integration over the volume, only the shell ?
 
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It doesn't have the right dimension yet...
Right, I dropped the charge density ##\rho##, I was supposed to move that outside the integral and it disappeared.
So the final answer should be ##\mathbf E(r,\theta) =\frac{R^3\rho}{2\epsilon_pr^3}(2\cos \theta \hat r + \sin \theta \hat \theta)##.

This should have the right dimension. the ##R^3/r^3## units cancel out. The unit of ##\rho## is ##C/m^2## and the unit of ##\epsilon_0## is ##C/(Vm)##. So combining those we have ##C/m^2\cdot \frac{Vm}{C} = V/m## volts per meter which is the unit for the electric field.
 
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Still not happy.
The dimension of ##\rho## is C/m3 (the sphere is solid -- it'not a shell !)
 
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I need to get better at reading questions, I thought I had a shell with surface charge. But perhaps I solved it for a shell with surface charge ##\rho##!

Lets redo the calculations, now with volume integrals.
The dipole should still be along the ##z##-axis but now with ##\mathbf r' = r\cos \theta \hat z##. and the volume element is ##d\tau' = r^2\sin \theta##.
##\mathbf p = \int_V \mathbf r' \rho(\mathbf r') d\tau' = \hat z \rho \int_0^{2\pi}d\phi \int_0^R r^3dr\left[\int_0^{\pi/2}\sin\theta \cos \theta d\theta - \int_{\pi/2}^\pi \sin \theta \cos \theta d\theta \right] = \frac{\pi \rho R^4\hat z}{2}\left[\frac{-cos 2\theta}{4}\bigg|_0^{\pi/2} + \frac{\cos2 \theta}{4}\bigg|_{\pi/2}^\pi \right] = \frac{\pi \rho R^4\hat z}{2}##
Then the field is
##\mathbf E = \frac{\pi \rho R^4 \hat z}{2\cdot 4\pi \epsilon_0 r^3} (2\cos \theta \hat r + \sin \theta \hat \theta) = \frac{\rho R^4 \hat z}{8 \epsilon_0 r^3}(2\cos \theta \hat r + \sin \theta \hat \theta). ##
with units ##\frac{C}{m^3}\frac{m^4}{m^3}\frac{1}{C/(Vm)} = \frac{V}{m}##.
 
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I think so, yes. Note that the upper half has charge ##\ q = {2\over 3}\rho\pi R^3\ ## so you find ##\ p = {3\over 4} Rq \ ##

By the way, this confirms nicely @rude man 2011 post #6 in thread 533393 : as if the charge q was sittting in the center of mass of this top half sphere (page 5 here) at ## \ z = {3\over 8} R \ ## and -q from the lower half at ## \ z = -{3\over 8} R \ ##.

Well done !
 
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Thanks! That's a good way to check the answer as well putting the charge at the center of mass for each half.
And thanks for the link. The second link in rude man's post is quite interesting as well, deriving the general formula for the field of a dipole. It's different from the derivation in our book and a lot more mathematical.
 

What is an electric dipole moment?

An electric dipole moment is a measure of the separation of positive and negative charges in a system. It is calculated by multiplying the magnitude of the charges by the distance between them.

How is the electric field of a dipole moment calculated?

The electric field of a dipole moment is calculated by taking the dot product of the dipole moment vector and the electric field vector at a given point. This results in a scalar value representing the strength of the electric field at that point.

What is the direction of the electric field of a dipole moment?

The direction of the electric field of a dipole moment depends on the orientation of the dipole. If the positive and negative charges are aligned, the electric field will point in the same direction as the dipole moment vector. If the charges are opposite, the electric field will point in the opposite direction.

How does the distance between charges affect the electric field of a dipole moment?

The electric field of a dipole moment is inversely proportional to the distance between the charges. This means that as the distance increases, the strength of the electric field decreases.

What are some real-life applications of electric dipole moments?

Electric dipole moments are used in many areas of physics, including molecular and atomic physics, to describe the behavior of charged particles and molecules. They are also important in understanding the properties and interactions of materials in electrical circuits and devices.

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