Electric field on a piece of wire

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The discussion centers on calculating the electric field produced by a uniformly charged thin wire, specifically at the point (0, D) in the +y-direction. The derived formula for the electric field magnitude is 2\frac{\lambda k_{e}}{D}\sin(\theta_{0}). Key equations include d\mathbf{E}=k_{e}\frac{dq}{r^2}\mathbf{\hat{r}} and the relationship between angles and distances in the context of electric fields. Participants clarified the simplification of the sin cubed term due to its negligible value compared to sin, and emphasized the importance of using the correct differential in calculations.

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Homework Statement


A thin piece of wire, with charge per unit length \lambda lies on the x-axis and extends from x=-L/2 to x=+L/2 so that it has a length L. Show that the electric field (at the point (x,y) = (0,D)) in the +y-direction has magnitude given by 2\frac{\lambda k_{e}}{D}\sin(\theta_{0}).
The file attached below is to show where theta is pulled from.

Homework Equations



d\mathbf{E}=k_{e}\frac{dq}{r^2}\mathbf{\hat{r}}

The Attempt at a Solution


Here is what I managed to boil up
First let
\theta+\phi=\frac{\pi}{2}
then
r=\frac{D}{\sin(\phi)}
dq=\lambda dx = -\lambda D d\phi
\hat{r}=\left(\begin{array}{cc}\cos(\phi)\\\sin(\phi)\end{array}\right)
\int dE_{y}=-\frac{\lambda k_{e}}{D}\int_{\phi_{0}+\frac{\pi}{2}}^{\theta_{0}-\frac{\pi}{2}}\sin^3(\theta)d\theta
Finally
E_{y}=\frac{\lambda k_{e}}{D}(2\sin(\theta_{0})-\frac{2}{3}\sin^3(\theta_{0}))
Did I do something wrong or did they assume that the sin cubed term is small and hence got rid of it?

Thanks,
 

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As sin(\theta_{0}) is less than 1, sin^3(\theta_{0}) is a lot smaller than sin(\theta_{0}) so can basically be ignored I believe. So yes you were right.
 
I think using \theta will avoid some mistakes that using \phi may make.

vladimir69 said:

dq=\lambda dx = -\lambda D d\phi


It's wrong.
You may find it simple if using this: x=Dtan\theta :wink:
 
Ahh damn, that was careless.

I used \phi because it helps with getting the right direction for the unit vector, but screwed up the differential unfortunately. (actually I did a similar error the second time aswell)

Thanks for the help.
 

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