Electric Field Strength Calculation for a Point 0.01m to the Left of a Charge

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The discussion revolves around calculating the electric field strength at a specific point located 0.01m to the left of a middle charge, involving multiple point charges with varying magnitudes and signs.

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  • Participants explore the calculation of electric field contributions from three different charges, questioning the signs and directions of the fields produced by each charge.

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There is an ongoing exploration of the correct signs for the electric field strengths, with participants discussing the implications of charge polarity on the direction of the electric field. Some guidance has been offered regarding the use of a positive test charge to determine field direction.

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Participants are grappling with the interpretation of electric field directions and the effects of different charge types, which may lead to confusion in their calculations. The original poster expresses uncertainty about their results, indicating a need for clarification on the concepts involved.

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Please help...! I tried!

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Homework Statement


Determine the electric field strength at a point 0.01m to the left of the middle charge.


Homework Equations



Electric Field
E = Ke (q / (r^2) )

Electric Force
F = Ke (q1q2 / r^2)

Constant
Ke = 9.00e9 Nm^2/C^2


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Let 7e-6C be q1, 1.0e-6 q2, and -3e-6C q3.
So if you start at the middle charge and go 0.01m to the left, I imagine a point P, and the distance between the middle charge and point P should be 0.01m I think...

So from there...

E q1 on P = 9e9 Nm^2/C^2 ( 7e-6C / 0.03m^2 ) = 7e7 N / C.

E q2 on P = 9e9 Nm^2/C^2 ( 1e-6C / 0.01m^2 ) = 9e7 N / C.

E q3 on P = 9e9 Nm^2/C^2 ( -3e-6C / 0.03m^2 ) = -3e7 N / C. 0.03m because 0.01m+0.02m I think.

Enet = 7e7 + 9e7 - 3e7 = 1.3e8 N/C.

But that's wrong!

Then you have to find the magnitude (in Newtons) if a charge of -3e-6C is placed at this imaginary point.
 
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Your signs are wrong... take right as positive, left as negative... what is the direction of the field due to the first charge... what is the direction of the field due to the second charge... and the third...
 
first thank learnphysc, you are always around!

i'm not getting it. E q1 on p should be positive shouldn't it? q1 is acting on point P forcing it to move right?
 
WardenOfTheMint said:
first thank learnphysc, you are always around!

i'm not getting it. E q1 on p should be positive shouldn't it? q1 is acting on point P forcing it to move right?

no prob. Yes, but what about q2 and q3?
 
oh yea. so E q2 on P should be negative because it's being to the left. ok i got it. does the negative charge push it also push it to the left?
 
so maybe the answer should be 7e7 N / C + ( -9e7 N / C) + ( -3e7 N / C) = -5e7N/C
i don't know the answer so i can only hope it's right
 
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WardenOfTheMint said:
oh yea. so E q2 on P should be negative because it's being to the left. ok i got it. does the negative charge push it also push it to the left?

no the negative charge creates a field to the right... so it's positive...

If you're not sure of the direction of the field use a positive test charge in the place where you're trying to get the field... so the direction of the force acting on a positive test charge, is the direction of the field...

So the negative charge would attract a positive test charge towards the right... so it creates a positive field at that point...
 
WardenOfTheMint said:
so maybe the answer should be 7e7 N / C + ( -9e7 N / C) + ( -3e7 N / C) = -5e7N/C

should be +3e7 N/C for the negative charge.
 
so in electric field questions a positive charge will always "push" and the negative will do the "pulling'?
 
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thanks! i got a confirmation it's right 7e7 N / C + ( -9e7 N / C) + ( 3e7 N / C) IS RIGHT! woohoo
 
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WardenOfTheMint said:
so in electric field questions a positive charge will always "push" and the negative will do the "pulling'?

Yes, in electric field questions it is like that since the test charge is positive. but not in electric force though.
 
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WardenOfTheMint said:
thanks! i got a confirmation it's right 7e7 N / C + ( -9e7 N / C) + ( 3e7 N / C) IS RIGHT! woohoo

Cool! :smile:
 
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E = kq/d^2

Just add up all of the three vectors you get.
 

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