Electric Flux, Gauss's Law Problem

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves calculating the electric flux through a square surface due to a proton positioned above it. The context is rooted in concepts from electrostatics, specifically Gauss's Law and electric field calculations.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to calculate the electric flux using the electric field derived from Coulomb's law and then applying the electric flux formula. They question the discrepancy between their result and the textbook answer, seeking clarification on their reasoning.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively discussing the original poster's approach and the assumptions made regarding the electric field's uniformity across the surface. Some guidance has been provided regarding the nature of the electric field and its variation across the square surface.

Contextual Notes

There is a reference to a previous discussion on the same problem, indicating that this issue has been explored before. The original poster acknowledges a misunderstanding in their logic and seeks further clarification.

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Homework Statement


A proton is a distance d/2 directly above the center of a square of side d. What is the magnitude of the electric flux through the square?

Homework Equations


1. Electric flux, \Phi_{net} = \oint \vec{E}\cdot d\vec{A}
2. \Phi_{net} = \frac{q_{enc}}{\epsilon_{0}}
3. \vec{E} = \frac{kQ}{r^{2}}

The Attempt at a Solution


I tried to use Equation - 3 first to calculate the net electric field and then from there, use the value of the electric field and multiply it by the area of the square.

I solved for the electric field from Equation 3 to be \frac{4ke}{d^{2}} where k is Coulomb's constant and e\ =\ 1.602176462(63)\ \times\ 10^{-19}\ C

Then I used Equation - 1 and because there is only one surface, the area is just equal to {d^{2}}. Thus, I calculated \Phi_{net} \ =\ \frac{4ke}{d^{2}}\times {d^{2}}\ =\ 4ke\ = 5.8 \times 10^{-9} N*m^2/C.

However, the answer in my textbook says it is actually 3.01 \times10^{-9} N*m^2/C. They used equation two and assumed that if the proton was contained in a cube and the square was one of the faces of the cube, the net electric flux of the cube would be \Phi_{net} = \frac{1.6 \times 10^-19}{\epsilon_{0}} and thus the electric flux for the square is 6 times less that.

Can someone point out how my method is flawed and where I went wrong in my logic? Thanks!
 
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Ahh I forgot to search first. But is it possible if someone could point out where I have a flaw in my logic? I understand the solution's concept but I get why my answer is different.
 
The electric field changes from point to pint along the surface. It is not a constant, as you assumed.
This is also discussed in that thread.
 
Ok thank you very much! I had a hard time really understanding my error but now I get it. Thanks!
 

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