Electric flux textbook discrepancy ?

AI Thread Summary
The discussion centers on the concept of electric flux and Gauss's law, particularly regarding the treatment of enclosed charges within a Gaussian surface. The textbook states that only the positive charge enclosed by a surface contributes to the net electric flux, while external negative charges influence the electric field but are not counted in the enclosed charge. The net flux is defined by the charge within the surface, regardless of external charges. It is clarified that the electric field lines associated with charges determine the flux, with equal and opposite charges maintaining a consistent number of field lines. When a Gaussian surface encloses no charge, the flux entering and leaving the surface balances out, resulting in zero net flux. This reinforces the principle that only enclosed charges affect the net electric flux as per Gauss's law.
jaredvert
Messages
61
Reaction score
0
Electric flux textbook discrepancy ??

ImageUploadedByPhysics Forums1393031750.624667.jpg
my textbook says "q enclosed for the Guastian surface in a1 would be the positive charge enclosed by a1: the negative charge does contribute to the electric field at a1 but it is not enclosed by surface a1 and so is not included in q enclosed". ...…..;…. So I would be quicker to deduce that I made the error than my textbook but the I thought the net electric flux is defined by the flux entering or leaving that doesn't begin or end in the enclosed surface. Since the electric field stops in the surface doesn't that mean it now has that net flux ? Or does this just not contribute to gauss's law? If so please elucidate! I'm only in ap physics so don't go beyond mechanics and basic e and m since I just started! ThanksSent from my iPhone using Physics Forums
 
Physics news on Phys.org
woah - big photo!
It shows an electric dipole with well separated charges.
The flux through surface A1 is positive while the flux through A2 is negative.
Both sets of charge contribute to the electric field everywhere, but the net flux through a surface is determined by the charge enclosed by the surface. The sign of the charge determines the direction.

You can actually see this in your diagrams - the flux is just the number of field lines through a surface.
The number of field lines starting or ending on a charge is a fixed number - determined by the amount of charge.

So if you have two equal and opposite charges, then they both have the same number of field lines attached to them - bring them close and all the field lines starting on the positive charge can end up on the negative charge and the total number of lines on each charge stays the same.

If you draw a surface around a volume with zero charge in it, but there are charges outside it, you'll see that all the field lines that enter the surface also leave it - so the net flux through the surface is zero.
 
For the following four books, has anyone used them in a course or for self study? Compiler Construction Principles and Practice 1st Edition by Kenneth C Louden Programming Languages Principles and Practices 3rd Edition by Kenneth C Louden, and Kenneth A Lambert Programming Languages 2nd Edition by Allen B Tucker, Robert E Noonan Concepts of Programming Languages 9th Edition by Robert W Sebesta If yes to either, can you share your opinions about your personal experience using them. I...
Hi, I have notice that Ashcroft, Mermin and Wei worked at a revised edition of the original solid state physics book (here). The book, however, seems to be never available. I have also read that the reason is related to some disputes related to copyright. Do you have any further information about it? Did you have the opportunity to get your hands on this revised edition? I am really curious about it, also considering that I am planning to buy the book in the near future... Thanks!

Similar threads

Replies
4
Views
693
Replies
83
Views
4K
Replies
2
Views
2K
Replies
2
Views
2K
Replies
30
Views
2K
Replies
2
Views
1K
Back
Top