Electric Potential Homework: Gauss's Law, Integrals, Bounds

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The discussion focuses on solving a homework problem involving a long coaxial cable with a volume charge density described by ρ = αs on the inner cylinder and a uniform negative surface charge on the outer shell. The key equations utilized include Gauss's Law, expressed as ∫E·da = Q_encl/ε, and the potential difference formula V = -∫E·dl. Participants clarify the integration bounds for Q_encl and the implications of using strict inequalities in the context of electric fields in different regions defined by the radii a and b.

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  • Understanding of Gauss's Law and its application in electrostatics
  • Familiarity with electric field calculations for cylindrical geometries
  • Knowledge of integration techniques for calculating charge enclosed
  • Concept of electric potential and its relationship to electric fields
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  • Review the application of Gauss's Law in different geometrical configurations
  • Study the implications of charge density variations on electric fields
  • Learn about the significance of boundary conditions in electrostatic problems
  • Explore the differences in electric field calculations with strict versus non-strict inequalities
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Students studying electromagnetism, particularly those tackling problems involving coaxial cables and electric fields, as well as educators looking for examples of applying Gauss's Law in complex scenarios.

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Homework Statement


A long coaxial cable carries a volume charge density rho=alpha*s on the inner cylinder (radius a) and a uniform surface charge density on the outer cylindrical shell (radius b). This surface charge is negative and of just the right magnitude so that the cable as a whole is electrically neutral.
a)Find the electric field in each of the three regions:
s<a, a<s<b, s>b

b)find the potential difference in each of these regions with a refernce point at infinity


Homework Equations


Gauss's law integral of E*da = Qencl/epsilon
V=-integral E*dl

The Attempt at a Solution


b) a<s<b
I'm confused about integrating to find Qencl. Qencl=integral rho*dtao where dtao=s*ds*dtheta*dz, but when I set up the bounds on the integral for s, I don't understand which bounds I am supposed to include. Since there is a less than sign and not a less than or equal to sign when the problem says that s is greater than a and less than b, how is it okay to integrate so from a to an arbitrary distance that is less than b? Isn't this still including the distance a, which we shouldn't do because of the strict greater than sign? Also, how would this problem change if I was asked to find the electric field in the region: s is greater than OR equal to a and less than or equal to b?

Thank you
 
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What shape is your Gaussian enclosure? I'm thinking of an infinitely long cylinder with the cable in the center. For the s > b, the total charge inside this is zero so an easy answer.
For a < s < b, there is charge and there may be some difficulty with charge and area being infinite but if you think "very long" instead of infinite, all that should cancel out. I don't even see the need for an integral - just the formula for the surface area of a cylinder.
 
The shape I'm using is a gaussian cylinder. Right, so the electric field for s> b is 0 because the coaxial cable is neutral, so we do not see any charge outside. The electric field for s<a can be solved using: E-field=Qencl/2*pi*r*L and Qencl can be found by using: Qencl=integral of rho*dtao, where dtao is rdr*dtheta*dz and plugging in Qencl into Gauss's law. I don't think I phrased my question correctly. in some coaxial problems we are told to find the electric field in the region between the cables where a<s<b where s is the radius of our Gaussian surface. In another problem (also dealing with a coaxial cable), the question has asked to find the electric field in the region where s is greater than OR EQUAL TO a and s is LESS THAN OR EQUAL TO b. Does the less than or equal to make a difference from a problem that does not ask less than or equal to? I know Gauss's law says that no points outside of our gaussian surface will act on the electric field inside our Gaussian surface, but for questions that ask less than or equal to, is it necessary to use 2 gaussian surfaces? one that integrates from a to s and one that integrates from s to b?
 

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