Electric Potential of 3 point charges

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The discussion focuses on calculating the electric potential of a linear electric quadrupole arrangement of three point charges located at ±s. Participants explore the formula for electric potential, V, and how to express distances in terms of y and s. One user initially struggles with the modeling but eventually realizes the need to account for the varying distances from the charges. By applying the Pythagorean theorem, they derive that the potential simplifies to K*Q/(y^3), indicating that the result does not depend on s. The conversation emphasizes the importance of correctly identifying the geometry of the charge arrangement to solve the problem effectively.
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1. The arrangement of charges shown in the figure is called a linear electric quadrupole. The positive charges are located at +-s. Notice that the net charge is zero.
Find an expression for the electric potential on the x-axis at distances y>>s.

Homework Equations


V= \sum1/4pi \epsilon0 * qi/ri


The Attempt at a Solution


Im just not sure how to go about modeling this equation.. otherwise I don't know were to start.
I have tried: 1/4pi\epsilon0 *Q/y thinking that it was a simple question, and I now understand that I should pick a s-value and use that to come up with the radius. However, I am stuck on how.
Thanks
 
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Let's start by finding expressions for the ri.

Can you express them in terms of y and/or s?
 
Kittlinljd said:
29.P68.jpg

1. The arrangement of charges shown in the figure is called a linear electric quadrupole. The positive charges are located at +-s. Notice that the net charge is zero.
Find an expression for the electric potential on the x-axis at distances y>>s.

Homework Equations


V= \sum1/4pi \epsilon0 * qi/ri


The Attempt at a Solution


Im just not sure how to go about modeling this equation.. otherwise I don't know were to start.
I have tried: 1/4pi\epsilon0 *Q/y thinking that it was a simple question, and I now understand that I should pick a s-value and use that to come up with the radius. However, I am stuck on how.
Thanks


You have the definition of the potential. Say I sit at x=0, y=10. Ignore the constants but not the charge and distance. You should be able to write down the potential at this point, (remember the distance from x=0, y=10 to each charge are 10 + s, 10, 10-s. Your general formula must take into account the fact that the charges are not at the same place.

V(y=10) = 1/(10 + s) -2/10 + 1/(10 - s)

In general V(y) = 1/(y + s) - 2/y + 1/(y - s).
 
so I change the constants to -s or s depending on which direction on the direction on the y axis? that makes sense.
What I tried was V = K \sumQ/(y+s) -2Q/(y) + Q/(y-s) , and it said that the answer does not depend on the variable s. Would this have something to do with Q= 2qs^2, being the electric quadrupole moment.
 
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You solved the problem for a point on the y-axis, like Spinnor said in his example.

However, you want to take a point on the x-axis.
Did you read my post (#2) ?
 
ahhhh, okay so now I see so I get:
K* Q/(y^3)
which is the answer masteringphysics took!
Thanks So much!
 
I assume that you worked this out using the Pythagorean theorem, and found that s cancels out
 
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