Elementary differential equations

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The discussion revolves around a system of differential equations, specifically x'(t) = 4y and y'(t) = x, and the task of finding the trajectory in the phase plane that passes through the point (2, 0). Additionally, participants are examining a partial differential equation involving functions u1 and u2, with a focus on verifying solutions.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss methods for solving the system of equations, including taking derivatives and substituting back into known equations. There are attempts to derive the trajectory and asymptotes, with some questioning the correctness of their solutions. Others express uncertainty about the implications of their findings.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided guidance on solving the system of equations and verifying the partial differential equation. There is an ongoing exploration of the asymptotic behavior of the solutions, with differing interpretations of the results and the implications for the initial conditions.

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Participants note the lack of formal study regarding hyperbolas and express uncertainty about the implications of their findings related to asymptotes and initial conditions. There is also mention of assumptions regarding constants in the equations.

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Homework Statement



1. For the system of equations x'(t) = 4y and y'(t) = x, obtain the equation of the trajectory (path in the phase plane) that passes through (2, 0). For this trajectory, what is the equation of the slant asymptote that (x(t), y(t)) approaches as t goes to infinity?

2. Verify that the given function is a solution to the given partial differential equation:

\alpha^{2}u_{xx} = u_{t};
u_{1}(x, t) = e^{-\alpha^{2}t}sin x;
u_{2}(x, t) = e^{-\alpha^{2}\lambda^{2}t}sin(\lambda x)

where \lambda is a real constant. Nothing is said about \alpha, but I assume it is a constant?

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1. I found dy/dx, which was separable, and integrated, and with the given initial condition, I ended up with 2y^{2} = \frac{x^{2}}{2} - 2

Finding the slant asymptote as t goes to infinity...I'm not sure, since we don't have explicit formulas for x(t) and y(t). The given equations for x' and y' are not separable. I'm not sure where to go from here...any hints or help would be appreciated.

2. I end up with:

u_{1x} = e^{-\alpha^{2}t}cos x;
u_{1xx} = -e^{-\alpha^{2}t}sin x;
u_{1t} = -\alpha^{2}e^{-\alpha^{2}t}cos x;
u_{1tt} = \alpha^{4}e^{-\alpha^{2}t}cos x;
and then
u_{2x}(x, t) = \lambda e^{-\alpha^{2}\lambda^{2}t}cos(\lambda x)
u_{2xx}(x, t) = -\lambda^{2} e^{-\alpha^{2}\lambda^{2}t}cos(\lambda x)
u_{2t}(x, t) = -\alpha^{2}\lambda^{2}e^{-\alpha^{2}\lambda^{2}t}sin(\lambda x)
u_{2t}(x, t) = \alpha^{4}\lambda^{4}e^{-\alpha^{2}\lambda^{2}t}sin(\lambda x)

and ALL I do is just use my given \alpha^{2}u_{xx} = u_{t} and substitute each one into the other (staying with respective eqn 1 and eqn2 of course) and show that they're equal, right? Just wanted to confirm.

Thanks in advance everyone!
 
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For 1) You should be able to solve the system from the start by taking another d/dt and setting it equal to the derivative in the other.

y'' = x' (after taking d/dt of y')
x' = 4y (you already have this)

y'' = 4y (this is a solvable ODE which you can use, and then do similar for x or use your result for y to find x)

Part 2 looks right to me.
 
I did that and I get x = -1/(t+D) and y = -1/(t+C) (C, D are both constants).

Substitute back into earlier known equations and we have x' = 2x^2 = 2/(t+D)^2 and y' = 2y^2 = 2/(t+C)^2. In both, as t goes to infinity, x' and y' both go to zero. Which means the asymptote is just y = x = 0, which doesn't pass through (2,0) in our initial condition.

Where did I go wrong?
 
You didn't solve y''-4y=0 correctly. Your solution for y(t) doesn't satisfy the differential equation. You should get exponentials or, equivalently, a combination of sinh and cosh.

Once you have x(t) and y(t) in explicit form, you'll see they tend to infinity as t does. To find the asymptotes, note that when x becomes large, you can neglect the constant on the righthand side of
$$2y^2 = \frac{x^2}{2} - 2,$$so you have ##2y^2 \approx \frac{x^2}{2}##. Alternately, you can rewrite the equation as
$$\frac{x^2}{4} - y^2 = 1$$ and identify it as that of a hyperbola, then use your knowledge of hyperbolas to find the asymptotes.

stripes said:
Which means the asymptote is just y = x = 0, which doesn't pass through (2,0) in our initial condition.
The asymptotes don't satisfy the initial conditions. Only the solution (x(t), y(t)) needs to.
 
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Interestingly enough, I have never formally studied hyperbolas. In high school, (11th and 12th grade particularly), it was taken out of the curriculum. In college, I've taken 2 years of calculus, a real analysis class, linear algebra, and now taking elementary DEs, and I have never, ever been required to know much, if anything about hyperbolas.

Anyways, from what I know, the slope of the asymptote will be +/-1/4, correct? Or maybe I'm wrong...
 
Close. The slope is ±1/2. Do you see why?
 

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