Energy balance in hydraulic cylinder

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the energy balance in a hydraulic cylinder, specifically examining how forces and displacements relate when lifting loads of varying magnitudes. Participants explore the implications of different load scenarios and the efficiency of hydraulic systems.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
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Main Points Raised

  • One participant describes a scenario where a smaller force applied to a smaller diameter cylinder can lift a larger load in a larger diameter cylinder, raising a question about energy balance when the load is reduced.
  • Another participant suggests that the remaining energy, when the load is less than expected, converts into kinetic energy of the load.
  • A different participant emphasizes the importance of considering the work done on the fluid within the cylinder itself.
  • One participant notes that if the load is decreased, the force applied will likely also decrease, leading to less resistance felt during operation.
  • A question is posed regarding the efficiency of hydraulic cylinders, specifically the ratio of output power to input power.
  • Another participant indicates that efficiency may vary based on the design and quality of the cylinder and suggests checking with the manufacturer for specific information.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying views on the implications of energy balance and efficiency in hydraulic systems, indicating that multiple competing perspectives exist without a clear consensus.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention factors such as the design of the hydraulic cylinder, the behavior of the load under different forces, and the role of fluid dynamics, which may introduce additional complexities not fully resolved in the discussion.

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This discussion may be of interest to those studying hydraulic systems, mechanical engineering, or anyone involved in practical applications of fluid mechanics.

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hello everyone,

In a hydraulic cylinder high amount of load is lifted by applying lower loads in smaller diameter side..
for example, if the diameters of two cylinders is 2cm and 4 cm and i applied a force of 10 N on the 2cm cylinder for 4m downwards. so now the 4cm diameter cylinder could lift a load of 40 N through 1 m... so the work done on both the sides is balanced..

work done = force*displacement
10*4=40*1

But, what if i placed only 20 N load..
the work done on both sides is not balanced...

where does the remaining energy go..?

thanks..
 
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It will accelerate the load and the remaining energy will become kinetic energy of the load.
 
Don't forget to take into account the work done on the fluid itself inside the cylinder.
 
In your example if you reduced the load from 40N to 20N, then likely the force you will apply to it wil also be reduced from ~10N to ~5N (if you were applying the force yourself).

In practice you will simply feel less resistance and adjust accordingly. If you attempted to still apply 20N, then the load will quickly accelerate away from you, forcing you to reduce how much force you apply.
 
thanks to all..
whats is the effeciency of a hydraulic cylinder?
output power/input power?
 
I am sure it depends on the design and quality of the cylinder...

do you have one in mind?
do you have access to the physical device?
is the efficiency written in the nameplate?
contact the manufacturer.
 

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