Energy stored in a mechanical watch spring

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around estimating the energy stored in a mechanical watch mainspring and explores the implications of dissolving a watch spring in acid. It touches on theoretical considerations, practical applications, and historical references related to the energy dynamics of springs.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Historical

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses interest in estimating the stored energy in a watch mainspring and seeks guidance on how to approach this estimation.
  • Another participant references a historical problem from a 1901 NY Times article regarding the potential energy of a wound watch spring when dissolved in acid.
  • A later reply suggests that the energy is released slowly into the acid as the spring dissolves, heating the acid rather than causing a sudden release of energy.
  • It is proposed that if the spring is of the common helical type, the potential energy diminishes as the diameter decreases, leading to a gradual rather than explosive failure.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants present differing views on the nature of energy release from a dissolving watch spring, with one suggesting a sudden release and another arguing for a gradual process. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the exact dynamics of energy release.

Contextual Notes

Participants do not reach a consensus on the mechanics of energy release from the spring, and assumptions regarding the type of spring and its behavior in acid are not fully explored.

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My mind often wanders while driving, and since I had been reading a lot about watches one particular day, as well as having read an article on springs made of carbon nano-tubes, I thought it might be possible to power small electronic devices with a mechanical self-winding watch movement. However, I had a hard time estimating the stored energy in a watch mainspring. So with some of the practical considerations aside, how would I go about estimating this? or better yet, where could I find out.
 
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While trying to find an answer, I came across this interesting problem:

What happens to the potential energy of a wound watch spring when it is dissolved in acid?

This problem was asked in a 1901 issue of the NY Times. http://query.nytimes.com/mem/archive-free/pdf?res=9B00E1D81330E132A25754C1A9659C946097D6CF
 
jasc15 said:
While trying to find an answer, I came across this interesting problem:



This problem was asked in a 1901 issue of the NY Times. http://query.nytimes.com/mem/archive-free/pdf?res=9B00E1D81330E132A25754C1A9659C946097D6CF

At some point prior to the total degradation of the spring, it would fracture at a single location thus releasing the potential energy and probably splashing acid everywhere.

DO NOT RECOMMEND TRYING.
 
No, the energy is released slowly into the acid with each layer of spring removed. The effect is to heat the acid. If the spring is the common helical variety, each layer is in shear, tensioned and compressed in the +/- 45 degree directions along the surface. If the diameter is eroded to half, the large majority of the potential energy is removed. 15/16th, is it?

Not a lot of potential energy is left, as it loses diameter, to cause a sudden failure at some point along its length. The last bit dissolves in a whimper, not a bang.
 

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