Entropy and Black Hole Temperature

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The discussion revolves around calculating the temperature of a black hole using its entropy formula. The participant initially struggles with deriving temperature from entropy due to the absence of an energy term. They realize that by substituting energy expressed as mc² into the entropy equation, they can differentiate with respect to energy. The solution involves applying the chain rule to split the derivative, allowing for the calculation of temperature through partial derivatives of entropy with respect to mass and energy. The method of splitting derivatives is confirmed as valid, aligning with principles from calculus.
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Homework Statement



In a previous problem I had to find the entropy of a black hole where I ended with this:

S_{BH}=\frac{8 \pi^2 G M^2 k}{h c}

Now I am to find the temp, given the energy of a black hole is mc2.

Homework Equations



T=(\frac{\partial S}{\partial u})^{-1}

The Attempt at a Solution



Originally I was stumped on how to start and in the process of google'ing different things, I accidentally ran across the solution. Since I can't undo my mistake, I would like to understand how some of this solution works.

I understand in order to get the temperature, I need to take the partail of S with respect to U. In my original black hole entropy, I can't do this since there is no U term to differentiate. However, I do have the energy is = mc2 or U=mc2.

Now I suppose I could substite that in for M2 and get my U term, but the solution I saw showed something different and that is where I am confused.

They split the partial derivative into two parts.

\frac{\partial S}{\partial U} = \frac{\partial S}{\partial M} \cdot \frac{\partial M}{\partial U}

So to get my T equation, we take the partial of the original equation with respect to M and then the partial of M with respect to U.

The second half using ∂U/∂M (mc2) → c2 then the inverse so ∂M/∂U which I need from above. Which is dumb. I could just solve for M and take ∂M/∂U in the first place...

Then mulitplying together gives me the correct equation for T.

My question lies in splitting up the derivative in order to get the form I need at the end. Is that the correct method to solve this? I looked around in my calculus book and didn't see anything that split up derivatives like this. Or anything that really explained this process. I think it makes more sense to sub in the energy like I did in the beginning, but woud like to understand this method as well.

Hopefully that all makes sense.
 
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Look up "chain rule." As far as I understand it, it is formally equivalent to direct substitution.
 
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