Evaluating Trigonometric Integral

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Homework Statement


\int\frac{\pi}{2}0 sin7y dy
The bounds are from \frac{\pi}{2} to 0.

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The Attempt at a Solution


I think I did the integration correctly, but I don't really know how to evaluate this.

\intsiny(sin2y)3 dy
\intsiny(1-cos2y)3 dy
u=cosy
du=-siny dy

-\int(1-u2)3 du
-\int(-u6+3u4-3u3+1) du

\frac{u<sup>7</sup>}{7}-\frac{3u<sup>5</sup>}{5}+\frac{3u<sup>4</sup>}{4}-u

\frac{cos<sup>7</sup>y}{7}-\frac{3cos<sup>5</sup>y}{5}+\frac{3cos<sup>4</sup>y}{4}-cosy

I'm a little rusty on my trig! Please help :)
 
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jdawg said:

Homework Statement


\int\frac{\pi}{2}0 sin7y dy
The bounds are from \frac{\pi}{2} to 0.

Homework Equations





The Attempt at a Solution


I think I did the integration correctly, but I don't really know how to evaluate this.

\intsiny(sin2y)3 dy
\intsiny(1-cos2y)3 dy
u=cosy
du=-siny dy

-\int(1-u2)3 du
-\int(-u6+3u4-3u3+1) du

\frac{u<sup>7</sup>}{7}-\frac{3u<sup>5</sup>}{5}+\frac{3u<sup>4</sup>}{4}-u

\frac{cos<sup>7</sup>y}{7}-\frac{3cos<sup>5</sup>y}{5}+\frac{3cos<sup>4</sup>y}{4}-cosy

I'm a little rusty on my trig! Please help :)

No the bounds are not from ##\pi/2## to 0, they are from 0 to ##\pi/2##. Anyway, you have the right idea; you just need to figure out the bounds after the u-substitution; that is, what are ##a## and ##b## in
\int_0^{\pi/2} \sin^7 y \: dy = -\int_a^b (1-u^2)^3 \, du?
 
Oops! That's what I meant. Haha thanks, I guess it would be a lot easier to just change the bounds.
 
Hey! I ran into another problem, I changed the bounds to 1 to 0:

-∫ (-u6+3u4-3u3+1) du

Then I flipped the bounds to 0 to 1 and changed the sign on the integral:

∫(-u6+3u4-3u3+1) du

Then I plugged in my bounds and got 99/140, but the answer in the back of the book is 16/35. I'm having trouble figuring out what I did wrong.
 
jdawg said:
Hey! I ran into another problem, I changed the bounds to 1 to 0:

-∫ (-u6+3u4-3u3+1) du

Then I flipped the bounds to 0 to 1 and changed the sign on the integral:

∫(-u6+3u4-3u3+1) du

Then I plugged in my bounds and got 99/140, but the answer in the back of the book is 16/35. I'm having trouble figuring out what I did wrong.

How do you get ##u^3##? It should be ##u^2## instead.
 
Pranav-Arora said:
How do you get ##u^3##? It should be ##u^2## instead.

Ooops! It was just a silly mistake. Thanks so much!
 
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