Final temperature of diamond using Cv

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around calculating the final temperature of diamond after transferring a specific amount of heat (100 J) to it, starting from a low initial temperature (10 K). The context involves the heat capacity at constant volume (Cv) of solids, particularly diamond, and its dependence on temperature.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the relationship between heat transfer and temperature change, noting that Cv is a function of temperature and changes as heat is added. There are discussions about integrating Cv over the temperature range and the implications of this on solving for the final temperature.

Discussion Status

Several participants have offered different approaches to the problem, including integration of Cv and algebraic manipulation. There is recognition of the complexity involved in the calculations, and some participants express uncertainty about their methods. No consensus has been reached on a definitive solution, but productive lines of reasoning are being explored.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the heat added is 100 J, and there is some confusion regarding the integration process and the changing nature of Cv with temperature. The discussion reflects the challenges of applying theoretical concepts to practical calculations in thermodynamics.

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Homework Statement



At low temperatures, Cv of solids is given by:

Cv = D(\frac{T}{\Theta})3

where:

D = 1.94*10^3
\Theta = Debye Temperature, for diamond 1860K

If 100J of heat is transferred to 1mole of diamond, initially at 10K. Calculate the final temperature.

Homework Equations



Cv = D(\frac{T}{\Theta})3
Q = mCv(Tf-Ti)

The Attempt at a Solution



This is a straight forward question as the equation becomes:

Q = mCv(Tf-Ti)

Tf = \frac{Q}{mC}+Ti

So the real problem I'm having is the fact that Cv is a function of T and T is changing as heat is being put in.
So how do I go about this question?

Thanks in advance
 
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Oh and I'm guessing mass is just 1 molar mass of carbon
 
dQ = CvdT

Plug in your expression for Cv and integrate from 10 to T:

Q = 1000J = ∫CvdT' from [10, T]

then solve for T.
 
Oh... that would do it... *Face Palm*

Can't BELIEVE I didn't see that.:rolleyes:

Thanks!
 
Actually how do you propose to do that?

Cv is the only variable changing with Temperature so:

Cv = D\int\frac{T^3}{θ^3}

Cv = \frac{D}{θ^3}\intT3 (from 10 to Tf)

Cv = \frac{D}{4θ^3} (T4f-104)

Q =mCv (Tf-10)

Q =\frac{mD}{4θ^3} (T4f-104)

Let A = \frac{mD}{4θ^3}

Q =A (Tf-10) (T4f-104)

At this point it becomes pretty much impractical to solve. Am I doing something wrong?
 
Q is the heat you added to the system, 1000J. It's just simple algebra from there.
 
If we expand it (Q = 100J btw)

\frac{T^5}{10} -T4-103T-104=\frac{10}{A}

I suppose you're going to tell me I have to do long division? No easier way?
 
Ryomega said:
Actually how do you propose to do that?

Cv is the only variable changing with Temperature so:

Cv = D\int\frac{T^3}{θ^3}

Cv = \frac{D}{θ^3}\intT3 (from 10 to Tf)

Cv = \frac{D}{4θ^3} (T4f-104)

Q =mCv (Tf-10)

Q =\frac{mD}{4θ^3} (T4f-104)

Let A = \frac{mD}{4θ^3}

Q =A (Tf-10) (T4f-104)

At this point it becomes pretty much impractical to solve. Am I doing something wrong?

No, your integration is wrong here.

Q = ∫CvdT = A(T4 -104)

Q/A + 104 = T4

T = (Q/A + 104)1/4
 
Wow... I should go back to school. Thanks a lot.
 

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