Find Axial Force at X: Structural Analysis Problem

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The discussion focuses on calculating the axial force at point X in a given structure. Participants clarify that isolating the section from point X to D is the correct approach to determine the axial force, which is identified as compression. There is confusion regarding the direction of the axial force, with one participant mistakenly believing it to be tension due to the downward force at point B. It is emphasized that a positive axial force indicates tension, while a negative value represents compression. The final consensus is that the axial force at X should be recorded as -5.08, confirming it as compression.
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Homework Statement


I have to find axial force at X for the following structure:

https://i.imgur.com/8o01fkC.jpg

The Attempt at a Solution


These are my workings
https://imgur.com/JfSfk9Z
https://imgur.com/3HuDN4d

I didn't work out moments because the question only asks for axial force, is that alright? I think I have gone wrong somewhere though, because I haven't used x=1.54m anywhere. Thanks!
 
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You went through more work than necessary, you could have isolated a section of the right hand part with a cut at x to find the axial force. Your answer looks numerically correct, but is the axial force compression or tension in the member?
 
PhanthomJay said:
You went through more work than necessary, you could have isolated a section of the right hand part with a cut at x to find the axial force. Your answer looks numerically correct, but is the axial force compression or tension in the member?

Which right hand part do you mean I could have isolated, from point X to C? It would be compression I think, so should be -5.08?
 
DanRow93 said:
Which right hand part do you mean I could have isolated, from point X to C? It would be compression I think, so should be -5.08?
Isolate from point x to D.
Compression is correct, but why do you say that?
 
PhanthomJay said:
Isolate from point x to D.
Compression is correct, but why do you say that?
PhanthomJay said:
Isolate from point x to D.
Compression is correct, but why do you say that?

I actually don't know, I've confused myself. At point B the axial force along BC is downwards, so axial force in X is opposite which means it should be tension doesn't it?

I put the answer 5.08 into the online test that I had to do and I got it wrong...
 
DanRow93 said:
I actually don't know, I've confused myself. At point B the axial force along BC is downwards, so axial force in X is opposite which means it should be tension doesn't it
when you isolated the section AB, the vertical force at B acts downward on AB. (Don't rotate the members as you have done, this confuses the issue). Anyway, if the vertical force at B acts downward on AB, then what does Newton's third law tell you about the direction of the vertical force at B on BC?
I put the answer 5.08 into the online test that I had to do and I got it wrong...
the problem statement tells you that a positive value for the axial force in BC indicates tension, implying that compression is entered as a negative value.
 
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