Engineering Find current in circuit (DC RL circuit with switch)

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The discussion focuses on analyzing a DC RL circuit with a switch that changes positions at specified times. Initially, the current is zero, and after the switch moves to position 1 at t=0, the current rises to 100 A. At t=1 second, when the switch moves to position 2, the current transitions from 63 A to 50 A, leading to the equation 50 + 13e^-(t-1). The confusion arises from the need to adjust the time variable in the equation to reflect the switch's activation at t=1, effectively shifting the time base. Understanding this shift is crucial for correctly applying the general equations for RL circuits.
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Homework Statement


Initially switch is at 0.
At t = 0 seconds switch is put at 1.
After 1 time constant switch is put at 2.
Find equation for current for t > 2[/B]
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Homework Equations


current through inductor tries to remain constant.
i(t) through inductor in series RL circuit is i(t) = [ i(initial) - i(final) ] e(-R*t/L + i(final)

The Attempt at a Solution


At t < 0 I(t) is 0.
For t > 0 switch is in position 1.
i(t = 0+ ) = i(t = 0- ) = 0.
for t much more than 0, the inductor will be short circuit and i will be 100 volts / 1 ohm = 100 A.

so equation for t > 0 = (initial current - final current) e-R*t/L + final current
= (0 - 100)e(-1 * t / 1 + 100 = 100 (1 - e(-t))

Now at t = 1 time constant switch is at position 2.
time constant = L/R = 1/1 = 1 second.
At t = 1 second, i(t) = 100 (1 - e-1)
= 63A

Now at t = 1 second switch is at position 2.
So initial current is same as earlier which is 63A.
Final current is 50A.
So we get answer as [ initial - final ] e(-t) + final
which is (63 - 50 ) e-t + 50
= 50 + 13e(-t)

But in answer they've given
50 + 13e-(t-1)

Where did the -1 part come from?
 
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jaus tail said:
Where did the -1 part come from?
Presumably they wish to keep the zero time as the instant the switch moved from position 0 to position 1. On that basis, what time does the switch move to position 2?
 
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Switch moves to position 2 at 1 second.
 
jaus tail said:
Switch moves to position 2 at 1 second.
Correct. And when you use the general expressions to write the current for an LR circuit, what is the assumed starting time?
 
That's mostly written in question. Like we have to find current across L at t = 0+.
If question says. 'find current just after switch is closed' we write i(t+) = i(t-)
 
jaus tail said:
That's mostly written in question. Like we have to find current across L at t = 0+.
If question says. 'find current just after switch is closed' we write i(t+) = i(t-)
Forget the problem for a moment. What do the general equations assume for the time start?
 
Zero I guess... But why should answer have t - 1?
The whole system starts at same time of 0 second.
 
jaus tail said:
Zero I guess... But why should answer have t - 1?
The whole system starts at same time of 0 second.
The general equations assume t starts at zero for the curve they describe. When you use them to describe a curve at some other starting time, this does not change the t=0 assumption for the math. It's up to YOU to shift YOUR time base so that the math "thinks" they start at zero as they were designed to do.
 
Ok, so the switch at 2 is at t = 1 seconds, so that means that the 50 V circuit is activated at t = 1 second.
However my equations of
i (t) = ( initial - final ) e-R*T/L start from T = 0 seconds.

But since t = 1(time when 50V is activated) , we have t - 1 = 0 and this = T(from equation above).
So we replace T by t - 1.
Like the origin is shifted ahead. Just like lag network.
 
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Yes, that's right. You've probably dealt with similar situations when writing time shifted versions of the unit step or unit impulse functions.
 
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yes I've solved questions with expressions u(t-1) or delta (t + 1) but didn't thought how it'd be in words. Thanks for the explanation.
 

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