Find Max Mass B for Mass A to Move on Slope of 30°

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves a mass (A) of 12 kg positioned on a slope with a 30-degree angle, connected to another mass (B) hanging over the edge. The objective is to determine the maximum mass (B) that can be applied before mass (A) begins to move, considering the coefficients of static and kinetic friction.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the initial attempt to calculate the maximum mass (B) using the static friction coefficient, questioning the correctness of the approach given the slope's angle. There is an exploration of whether the angle affects the calculations and what additional considerations might be necessary.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with some participants indicating that the original equation used may not be appropriate. There is a suggestion to analyze the scenario without mass (B) to gain insights into the forces acting on mass (A) and how they relate to the current problem.

Contextual Notes

Participants are considering the implications of the slope's angle and the role of friction in determining the motion of mass (A). There is an acknowledgment of potential misunderstandings regarding the application of the static friction coefficient in this context.

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Homework Statement



A mass(A) of 12kg is on a slope with an angle of 30 degrees.
The static coefficient of friction of the slope = 0.5 (μs)
The kinetic coefficient of friction 0.3
The length of the slope from the block= 5m

However the The mass(A) is connected to another mass(B) which is hanging over the edge.

Q. What is the maximum mass (B) can be before mass (A) will begin to move.
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Homework Equations



M(B) ≤ μsM(A)

The Attempt at a Solution


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I just subbed into this 0.5 x 12 = 6 Kg

but my teacher marked it wrong on the test.
Is it possible the fact its on a slope will have anything to do with it so do I use the angle in some way?
 
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Yes, so your equation is not correct.
 
Okay is it that it is incorrect as in doesn't exist or i used the wrong one
 
Suppose that the mass MB wasn't there. Would you know how determine whether of not the mass A slides down the slope? If so, show us how you would do it. Once you do this problem, you will know what to do with the present problem in which MB is trying to make MA slide up the slope.

Chet
 

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