Find the coefficient of kinetic friction between the box and the ramp

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The problem involves a 37 kg box sliding down a 35 degree ramp with an acceleration of 1.35 m/s². Participants are tasked with finding the coefficient of kinetic friction between the box and the ramp, while considering the effects of gravitational forces and friction.

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  • The original poster attempts to calculate the coefficient of kinetic friction using forces acting on the box, but expresses confusion over obtaining a value greater than one. Other participants suggest reevaluating the approach by considering the weight components and the net force acting down the incline.

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A 37 kg box slides down a 35 degree ramp with an acceleration of 1.35 m/s^2. The acceleration of gravity is 9.81 m/s^2.

Find the coefficient of kinetic friction between the box and the ramp.


Ff= MkFn


37 * 1.35 = 49.95 N
Fgx = 49.95 sin 35 = 28.650143
Fgy = 49.95 cos 32 = 40.91664461


Ax = (1/m)(Ff - Fgx)

Ax= ((1/m)(Ff)) - ((1/m)(Fgx))
Ax + ((1/m)(Fgx)) = ((1/m)(Ff))
1.35 + ((1/37)(28.650143)) = ((1/37)(Ff))
2.124328189 = ((1/37)(Ff))
2.124328189 * 37 = Ff
78.600143 = Ff

Mk = 78.600143 / 40.916
Mk = 1.921012391

I think I did something wrong because the coefficient is greater than one

Please check what I did wrong and how can I fix it?
 
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37 * 1.35 = 49.95 N
Fgx = 49.95 sin 35 = 28.650143
Fgy = 49.95 cos 32 = 40.91664461
This approach is not correct.

The acceleration of 1.35 m/s2 is the consequence of friction, and has no effect on the normal force.

Start with the weight components normal and parallel with the plane of the incline.

mg = 37 kg * 9.81 m/s2 = 363 N.

Fgx = mg sin 35° = 363 sin 35° = 208.2 N
Fgy = mg cos 35° =363 cos 35° = 297.4 N

Now the normal force of the box on the incline produces friction according to \muFgy

http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/mincl.html#c2

So the friction force is \mu297.4 N

However, a better approach is to think about the net force acting down the incline: Fgx-Ffrict = mg sin 35° - \mumg cos 35°.

Dividing the force by the mass being accelerated gives the acceleration, so

a = g sin 35° - \mug cos 35° = 0.574 g - \mu 0.819 g = 1.35 m/s2


BTW, this appears to be a homework problem, so please post in the HW forum, Introductory Physics.
 
Sorry for posting twice and thanks for the help!
 
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