Finding Electric Field on rod or ring?

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The discussion revolves around calculating the electric field at a point along the axis of a uniformly charged rod. The process involves breaking the rod into small segments, each contributing to the total electric field, leading to an integral expression for the field. The confusion arises when transitioning from the integral to the final formula, specifically regarding the manipulation of terms and potential divide by zero errors. The participants clarify that the anti-derivative of 1/x^2 is indeed -1/x, which is crucial for the calculation. Ultimately, the derived formula for the electric field is confirmed to be keQ/a(l+a), illustrating the relationship between charge, distance, and the electric field.
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Its from an example in the book, and it doesn't seem to make sense,

A rod of length l has a uniform positive charge per unit length (lambda) and a total charge Q. Calculate the electric field at a point P that is located along the long axis of the rod and a distance a from one end.

So then the example takes a small part of the rod, dx which has charge of dq, and is distance x from point P.

dq = (lambda)dx and dE = ke dq/x^2 or ke lambda dx / x^2

fine so far.

Now the example says we must sum up the contributions of all the segments.

it becomes an integral E = (integral) from a to l+a of ke lambda dx/x^2

the example breaks the dq component out into ke lambda [ - 1/x ] from a to l+a I am somewhat confused now.

then it goes on, ke lambda(1/a - 1/l+a) = keQ/a(l+a) ? what??!

okay it kind of makes sense, the total charge divided by length, but the last part there is a divide by zero error to my thought process, multiplying an item with example values: Lambda(1/a - 1/b) or Q/l(1/a - 1/b) might give (Q/l * 1/a) - (Q/l * 1/b) if doing the same thing for the actual values, should give Q/la - Q/la + l^2 ?? no?

reducing it down to Q/a(a+l) ? the book doesn't explain how it arrived at this.

Can anyone give an example of calculating the Field from a charged rod? apparently its the same in a ring from the x-axis but using vectors, but this concept seems tough, thanks for any explanations
 
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Brad_1234 said:
it becomes an integral E = (integral) from a to l+a of ke lambda dx/x^2
I assume you understand and agree that that's the total field at the point in question.

the example breaks the dq component out into ke lambda [ - 1/x ] from a to l+a I am somewhat confused now.
What's the anti-derivative of 1/x^2? That's where the 1/x comes from.

then it goes on, ke lambda(1/a - 1/l+a) = keQ/a(l+a) ? what??!
k\lambda (\frac{1}{a} - \frac{1}{(l + a)}) = k\lambda (\frac{l+a}{a(l+a)} - \frac{a}{a(l+a)}) = k\lambda l \frac{1}{a(l+a)} = \frac{k Q}{a(l+a)}
 
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