What is the Direction of Magnetic Force on a Moving Electron?

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The discussion centers on determining the direction of the magnetic force acting on a moving electron in a magnetic field. The electron, with a negative charge, is moving in the positive x direction while the magnetic field is oriented in the positive z direction. The force calculated using the equation F = q(v x B) yields a magnitude of 3.84 x 10^-14 N, with confusion arising over the direction due to the negative charge. While the cross product of velocity and magnetic field suggests a force in the negative y direction, the negative charge reverses this, resulting in a force in the positive y direction. Ultimately, the participants clarify that the correct interpretation of the force direction accounts for the charge's sign, leading to a positive y direction for the force.
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Homework Statement


An electron (charge = –1.6 x 10^–19 C) is moving at 3.0 x 10^5 m/s in the positive x direction. A magnetic field of 0.80 T is in the positive z direction. The magnetic force on the electron is:

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a) 0 N

b) 3.8 x 10^–14 N in the positive z direction

c) 3.8 x 10^–14 N in the negative z direction

d) 3.8 x 10^–14 N in the positive y direction

e) 3.8 x 10^–14 N in the negative y direction

Homework Equations


F(b) =q(vxb)

The Attempt at a Solution


Force is 3.8x10^-14

In terms of direction, I was told that it was the positive y direction, but isn't the charge negative so it should be the negative y direction?
 
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I get it in the positive y direction, because X x Y = Z. Can you post a diagram?
 
BTW, why are all of the answers wrong?
 
berkeman said:
BTW, why are all of the answers wrong?

They are all wrong? I got the same force as the other force answers...

I know X x Y = Z, but from my textbook "If q is negative, then the force and cross product have opposite signs and thus must be in opposite directions. "
Shouldn't this then reverse it from positive y direction to negative y direction?
 
Jimbob999 said:
I know X x Y = Z, ...

But what is X x Z ?
 
TSny said:
But what is X x Z ?

You mean qv x F? I am not sure I follow?
 
berkeman said:
BTW, why are all of the answers wrong?

F = –1.6 x 10^–19 (3.0 x 10^5 x0.8)
F =-3.84 x 10^–14

Admittedly I get a negative answer, but at least it matches numerically.
 
Jimbob999 said:
Admittedly I get a negative answer, but at least it matches numerically.
I think you mean it's magnitude matches .

The direction - assuming z - axis leaves the plane , how are you getting force in the -ve y direction ?
Velocity vector's cross product with the magnetic field is in the -ve y direction . So , a -ve charge implies the opposite of this , i.e. , in the +ve y direction .

Hope this helps .
 
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Qwertywerty said:
I think you mean it's magnitude matches .

The direction - assuming z - axis leaves the plane , how are you getting force in the -ve y direction ?
Velocity vector's cross product with the magnetic field is in the -ve y direction . So , a -ve charge implies the opposite of this , i.e. , in the +ve y direction .

Hope this helps .

Again I would get the +ve y direction answer as you do, except the part in the textbook that confuses me is this: 'If q is negative, then the force and cross product have opposite signs and thus must be in opposite directions' q is negative isn't it? Thus the positive y becomes negative y. Oh boy how lost am I now...
 
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Jimbob999 said:
Again I would get the +ve y direction answer as you do, except the part in the textbook that confuses me is this: 'If q is negative, then the force and cross product have opposite signs and thus must be in opposite directions' q is negative isn't it?
That's what I have said . v×B ( in vector form ) is towards -ve y direction , but electron charge is -ve , so force is in the +ve direction .
 
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Qwertywerty said:
That's what I have said . v×B ( in vector form ) is towards -ve y direction , but electron charge is -ve , so force is in the +ve direction .

Ah ok, I think I get that now.

So am I correct in concluding firstly that F = 3.84 x 10^–14 or as berkeman hinted at, is that incorrect?
 
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Although you'll have to check the magnitude .
 
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