Finding Object Distance for Upright Image with Magnification +1.51 for Concave Mirror

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The problem involves determining the object distance for a concave mirror that produces an upright image with a specified magnification of +1.51. The context includes the radius of curvature of the mirror and relevant mirror equations.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the use of mirror equations and the relationship between object distance, image distance, and focal length. There is an exploration of different substitution methods to solve for the object distance.

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Some participants have provided guidance on alternative approaches to the problem, suggesting substitutions that may simplify the calculations. There is acknowledgment of differing methods and preferences in working with units.

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Participants note the conversion of units from centimeters to meters and express varying comfort levels with these conversions. There is also mention of the online homework system indicating an error in the original poster's calculations.

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Homework Statement



Suppose the radius of curvature of a concave mirror is 5.0 cm
a) Find the object distance that gives an upright image with a magnification of +1.51.


Homework Equations



1/Do + 1/Di= 1/f

m=-di/do=hi/ho


The Attempt at a Solution



First i convered all cm into m.

f=R/2, so .05/2 = .025.
1/.025=40

then I used m=-Di/Do. Since don't know Do or Di, I substituted for the unknowns using 1/Do + 1/Di= 1/f

I came up with...
m=-[40-(1/Do)]/[40-1/(40-1/Do)] and solved for Do.

I got Do=.02506m.

Online HW says it's wrong.

Any help is GREATLY appreciated. What I did makes sense to me but obviously there's an error or just some major concept I don't understand. Thank you so much for taking the time!
 
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longcatislong said:

Homework Statement



Suppose the radius of curvature of a concave mirror is 5.0 cm
a) Find the object distance that gives an upright image with a magnification of +1.51.

Homework Equations



1/Do + 1/Di= 1/f

m=-di/do=hi/ho

The Attempt at a Solution



First i convered all cm into m.

f=R/2, so .05/2 = .025.
Okay, everything seems right so far. :approve:
1/.025=40
I'm not sure why you would want to invert that at this point in the process, but okay.
then I used m=-Di/Do. Since don't know Do or Di, I substituted for the unknowns using 1/Do + 1/Di= 1/f
Substitution is the right idea. :approve:
I came up with...
m=-[40-(1/Do)]/[40-1/(40-1/Do)] and solved for Do.
Now you've lost me. :rolleyes:

So far, you've already figured out
\frac{1}{D_o} + \frac{1}{D_i} = \frac{1}{f}
and
m = -\frac{D_i}{D_o}.
Rather than going the other way around, try substituting D_i = -mD_0 into the first equation. Also substitute f = R/2 into the first equation. It might make it a little easier to solve for D_o that way. (Hint: then find a common denominator for the left side of the equation :wink:)
 
Oh god that's SO much simpler than what I was trying to do. Thanks a million!
 
Glad it worked out. By the way, I find it easier to work in cm rather than meters for this problem. For example, "1/2.5" is easier (for me) to work with than "1/0.025". In the end you get the same answer, of course.
 

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