Finding resistance in an LC Circuit (FM Radio)

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The discussion revolves around an LC circuit related to FM radio reception, specifically focusing on tuning a capacitor and adjusting resistance to optimize signal reception at different frequencies. The original poster presents a problem involving a circuit with a known inductor value and a variable capacitor, aiming to receive signals from two different FM stations at frequencies of 88.3 MHz and 88.1 MHz.

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  • Participants explore the meaning of an "optimized circuit" and question the implications of tuning the circuit for different frequencies. There is discussion about the relationship between current and resistance in the context of Ohm's Law and impedance calculations.

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Some participants have provided guidance on recalculating impedance for the different frequencies and adjusting resistance accordingly. There is an ongoing exploration of how to relate the currents at the two frequencies and the implications of the circuit's optimization.

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There is a noted lack of specific resistance values for the optimized circuit at 88.3 MHz, which complicates the calculations for part (b). Participants are working under the assumption that the values for inductance and capacitance remain constant while resistance is adjusted.

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Homework Statement



The figure shows a simple FM antenna circuit in which L = 8.22 µH and C is variable (the capacitor can be tuned to receive a specific station). The radio signal from your favorite FM station produces a sinusoidal time-varying emf with an amplitude of 12.2 µV and a frequency of 88.3 MHz in the antenna.

(a) To what value, C0 ,should you tune the capacitor in order to best receive this station?

(b) Another radio station's signal produces a sinusoidal time-varying emf with the same amplitude, 12.2 µV, but with a frequency of 88.1 MHz in the antenna. With the circuit tuned to optimize reception at 88.3 MHz, what should the value, R0, of the resistance be in order to reduce by a factor of 2 (compared to the current if the circuit were optimized for 88.1 MHz) the current produced by the signal from this station? (When entering units, use ohm for Ω.)

Homework Equations



Im = Vm/[(R)2+(ωL-1/ωC)2](1/2)

The Attempt at a Solution



Part (a) was no problem for me. The answer is 3.95E-13.

Part (b) has me stumped. I don't know what "circuit tuned to optimize reception at 88.3 MHz" means. I assumed that, in an optimized circuit, (ωL-1/ωC) would = 0.

It has to be twice the current in the non-optimized circuit.

IO = 2Im

IO = Vm/R (Because I assumed that ωL-1/ωC = 0, the equation simplifies to Ohm's Law).

If I set this equal to 2Vm/[(R)2+(ωL-1/ωC)2](1/2) (or, 2Im) things cancel and I lose my Resistance variable. This leads me to believe that my initial assumption as to the meaning of optimized circuit is wrong. I don't know where to proceed from here.
 

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Renaldo said:

Homework Statement



Part (b) has me stumped. I don't know what "circuit tuned to optimize reception at 88.3 MHz" means. I assumed that, in an optimized circuit, (ωL-1/ωC) would = 0.

It has to be twice the current in the non-optimized circuit.

IO = 2Im

IO = Vm/R (Because I assumed that ωL-1/ωC = 0, the equation simplifies to Ohm's Law).

If I set this equal to 2Vm/[(R)2+(ωL-1/ωC)2](1/2) (or, 2Im) things cancel and I lose my Resistance variable. This leads me to believe that my initial assumption as to the meaning of optimized circuit is wrong. I don't know where to proceed from here.

That equation applies to 88.3 MHz but not to 88.1 MHz.

"Optimized at 88.3" means wL = 1/wC at 88.3. It's not optimized at 88.1.

Recalculate the impedance of the RLC circuit at 88.1 MHz, then adjust R until you get 1/2 the current you got at 88.3.
 
"Recalculate the impedance of the RLC circuit at 88.1 MHz, then adjust R until you get 1/2 the current you got at 88.3."

I guess I could do that pretty easily if I could determine the current in the optimized circuit. I can determine an equation for it, but it comes with two variables, I and R.

The equation is I = V/R, Ohm's Law.

This is the current in the optimized circuit. I rename it IO

IO = 2I1, because 1/2 of IO = I1.

I1 is the current in the non optimized circuit. It equals the equation I used earlier. It's a pain to type up.

The V's on both sides cancel.

I re-arrange the equations and solve for R.

My final equation is:

[ωL - (1/ωC)]/[3^(1/2)]= R

This produces a wrong answer.

ω = 83100000(2∏)
C = 3.97E-13
 
Renaldo said:
"Recalculate the impedance of the RLC circuit at 88.1 MHz, then adjust R until you get 1/2 the current you got at 88.3."

I guess I could do that pretty easily if I could determine the current in the optimized circuit. I can determine an equation for it, but it comes with two variables, I and R.

The equation is I = V/R, Ohm's Law.

This is the current in the optimized circuit. I rename it IO

IO = 2I1, because 1/2 of IO = I1.

I1 is the current in the non optimized circuit. It equals the equation I used earlier. It's a pain to type up.

The V's on both sides cancel.

I re-arrange the equations and solve for R.

My final equation is:

[ωL - (1/ωC)]/[3^(1/2)]= R

This produces a wrong answer.

ω = 83100000(2∏)
C = 3.97E-13

EDIT: I just realized they didn't give you a value for R at 88.3 MHz (part a). That means the answer to part b will be a function of R and can't be a number.

Looks like you tried to come up with a new value of C. That is not the idea. In part b, L and C are the same as in part a but R has to change to make the current half of what it was in part a.

More tomorrow, got to hit the sack.
 
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Renaldo said:
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OK, you found i = V/R when f = 88.3 MHz. You did that by setting wL = 1/wC.

Now write the equation for impedance at 88.1 MHZ LEAVING L AND C ALONE, but introducing a different R = R'. Then what is the impedance Z(jw) for the new network with the new R' at w = 2 pi 88.1 MHz? That will get you the ratio Z(88.1)/Z(88.3). Z(88.3) = R as we already know. What is Z(88.1)?

Finally, what must Z(88.1)/Z(88.3) be in order for the current at 88.1 to be half that at 88.3? And from that, what is R'? There will be R in the answer.
 

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