Flux distribution in transformers

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The discussion centers around the flux distribution in transformers, particularly focusing on the differences between single-phase and three-phase transformers. Participants explore how magnetic flux is transferred between windings and the role of the iron core in directing this flux, as well as the challenges posed by concentric winding configurations in three-phase transformers.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant describes the fundamental operation of transformers, emphasizing the transfer of energy through magnetic flux and the importance of the iron core in directing this flux.
  • Another participant questions how flux flows in three-phase transformers with concentric windings, suggesting that while flux can cut through the secondary winding, it may prefer to flow through the core due to the air gap.
  • A different viewpoint highlights the significance of "linking" rather than "cutting" in magnetic induction, suggesting that the core material helps optimize the magnetic flux linkage between the primary and secondary windings.
  • Participants express a desire for visual aids, such as photos or figures, to better understand the flux distribution in three-phase transformers.
  • One participant provides a link to an external resource containing images related to transformer construction, which may assist in visualizing the discussed concepts.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the specifics of flux behavior in three-phase transformers, with multiple viewpoints and questions remaining unresolved.

Contextual Notes

The discussion reflects varying assumptions about the behavior of magnetic flux in different transformer configurations, and the need for visual representations to clarify these concepts. There are also references to external resources that may not fully address the questions raised.

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Dear all members , i am glad to open a new topic

well , let's get into the main point quickly

you know that transformers is build on the idea that energy is transferred from one winding to the other by the transferring of flux form primary winding to secondry winding

well ,to make the flux go or flow in the direction desired (i.e to force the flux to cut the secondry winding and minimize the leakage flux ) we add iron core

this is very good in case of single phase transformer as flux move from one side to the other inside the core

but in case of 3-phase transformers where the primary and secondry windings are concentric
how the flux flow in the core and at the same time cut the secondry

what i mean is : the flux can cut the secondry winding but easier for it to flow inside the core as the path used to cut the windings is to flow first in air then in the windings

if anybody have a photo for the distribution of flux in 3-phase transfromers windings and core i will be very glad

i hope all can join in this topic also if anybody have a question regarding the magnetism it will be very good to post

thanks
 
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adool_617 said:
Dear all members , i am glad to open a new topic

well , let's get into the main point quickly

you know that transformers is build on the idea that energy is transferred from one winding to the other by the transferring of flux form primary winding to secondry winding

well ,to make the flux go or flow in the direction desired (i.e to force the flux to cut the secondry winding and minimize the leakage flux ) we add iron core

this is very good in case of single phase transformer as flux move from one side to the other inside the core

but in case of 3-phase transformers where the primary and secondry windings are concentric
how the flux flow in the core and at the same time cut the secondry

what i mean is : the flux can cut the secondry winding but easier for it to flow inside the core as the path used to cut the windings is to flow first in air then in the windings

if anybody have a photo for the distribution of flux in 3-phase transfromers windings and core i will be very glad

i hope all can join in this topic also if anybody have a question regarding the magnetism it will be very good to post

thanks

Welcome to the PF. I don't know the answer to your question, but a goodle search on "three-phase transformer" returned lots of good-looking hits. Here's the hit list:

http://www.google.com/search?source...T4GGLL_enUS301US302&q=three-phase+transformer

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The important term in magnetic induction is linking not cutting, material core in three phase and single phase transformers lead curl of produced flux to best linking of primary and secondary winding with magnetic flux. Please refer to attached figure.

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figure of that post
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adool_617 said:
if anybody have a photo for the distribution of flux in 3-phase transfromers windings and core i will be very glad
Here's a Ipaper on transformer construction basics that have some pictures of windings and cores.
http://www.scribd.com/doc/8935188/Transformer-BasicsPDF"
 
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