Part b: Solving for Force & Friction to Find θ0 Angle

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The discussion focuses on determining the force required to move a mop head at an angle θ and finding the critical angle θ0 below which the force is insufficient to initiate movement. The derived formula for the force when the mop head moves at a constant velocity is F = μk(mg) / (sinθ - μkcosθ). To find θ0, it is established that if (sinθ - μscosθ) equals zero, the force becomes undefined, indicating that no force can move the mop. The book's answer for θ0 is θ0 = tan-1(μs), which aligns with the condition that static friction must be overcome for movement. This understanding clarifies the relationship between the angle and the coefficients of friction in the context of the problem.
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A worker pushes on a mop with a force F. The handle is at an angle θ with the vertical and μs and μk are the coefficients of static and kinetic friction between the head of the mop and the floor. Ignore the mass of the handle and assume that all the mop's mass m is in its head.

a) If the mop head moves along the floor with a constant velocity, then what is F?

b) Show that if θ is less than a certain value θ0, then F is unable to move the mop head. Find θ0

i got part a) to be F = μk(mg) / (sinθ - μkcosθ).

but i can't get part b). all i have is Fn(μs) = Fsinθ0 where Fn is the normal force. the book's answer is θ0 = tan-1(μs). how did they get that?
 
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Hi demonelite123! :wink:
demonelite123 said:
b) Show that if θ is less than a certain value θ0, then F is unable to move the mop head. Find θ0

just use the same method as for a) …

you'll have (sinθ - μscosθ) on the bottom, and that has to be … ? :smile:
 
tiny-tim said:
Hi demonelite123! :wink:


just use the same method as for a) …

you'll have (sinθ - μscosθ) on the bottom, and that has to be … ? :smile:

if (sinθ - μscosθ) is 0, then the force is undefined?
 
demonelite123 said:
if (sinθ - μscosθ) is 0, then the force is undefined?

(just got up :zzz: …)

hmm … this is physics, not maths! …

in maths, things can be undefined, but in physics either they exist or they don't …

in this case, if (sinθ - μscosθ) is 0, then the force would have to be infinite, in other words no force will be able to move the mop. :wink:
 
tiny-tim said:
(just got up :zzz: …)

hmm … this is physics, not maths! …

in maths, things can be undefined, but in physics either they exist or they don't …

in this case, if (sinθ - μscosθ) is 0, then the force would have to be infinite, in other words no force will be able to move the mop. :wink:


ok now i understand, thanks!
 
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