Force exerted at given angle, constant velocty, find weight

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The problem involves analyzing the forces acting on an airplane during takeoff, specifically focusing on a force of 7546 N directed upward at an angle of 70.5 degrees. The airplane is said to rise with constant vertical velocity while accelerating horizontally, and the task is to determine the weight of the plane.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the setup of a free body diagram, questioning the presence of forces such as normal force and weight. They explore the application of Newton's laws, particularly in resolving forces into components along the horizontal and vertical axes. There is uncertainty about the necessity of calculating acceleration and how to approach the problem given the information provided.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants seeking clarification on the correct interpretation of forces and the implications of the airplane's constant vertical velocity. Some guidance has been offered regarding the use of force components and the relevance of vertical acceleration, but no consensus has been reached on the next steps.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the plane has already taken off, which raises questions about the forces acting on it, particularly the absence of a normal force in this scenario. There is also a focus on understanding the implications of constant velocity in the vertical direction.

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Homework Statement


On takeoff, the action of the air around the engine and wings of an airplane exerts a 7546 N force on the plane, directed upward at an angle of 70.5 degrees above the horizontal. The plane rises with constant velocity in the vertical direction while continuing to accelerate in the horizontal direction. Acceleration due to gravity is 9.8m/s^2. What is the weight of the plane (in N)?


Homework Equations


I think I should use F=ma. (?)


The Attempt at a Solution


My first problem is I'm not quite sure if I have the free body diagram right. I have the plane's weight in the downward direction, normal force in the upward direction, and the (7546 N) force in between the normal force and the horizontal axis at 70.5 degrees. It's hard to know if I'm on the right track if that isn't right. From there I simply tried m=F/a. m = 7546N / 9.8m/s^2 = 770 kg? That would be too easy though and I feel like a calculation for acceleration is necessary? My previous problems involved finding acceleration with friction forces so I am a bit thrown off by this for some reason. Do I have to find the sum of the forces? Just looking if someone can point me in the right direction either with the free body diagram or an equation. Thanks!
 
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AR8742 said:

Homework Statement


On takeoff, the action of the air around the engine and wings of an airplane exerts a 7546 N force on the plane, directed upward at an angle of 70.5 degrees above the horizontal. The plane rises with constant velocity in the vertical direction while continuing to accelerate in the horizontal direction. Acceleration due to gravity is 9.8m/s^2. What is the weight of the plane (in N)?


Homework Equations


I think I should use F=ma. (?)


The Attempt at a Solution


My first problem is I'm not quite sure if I have the free body diagram right. I have the plane's weight in the downward direction, normal force in the upward direction, and the (7546 N) force in between the normal force and the horizontal axis at 70.5 degrees.

Since they say the plane is rising, it has already left the ground, so one of these forces should is not present.

It's hard to know if I'm on the right track if that isn't right. From there I simply tried m=F/a. m = 7546N / 9.8m/s^2 = 770 kg?

I think you need to be a bit more careful with Newton's law here. If you pick some specific direction (and call it the x direction), then it is:

<br /> \sum F_x = m a_x<br />

that is, add up all of the x components of the forces acting on the object, and then that's equal to mass times the x component of the acceleration.

So what is the best direction to apply Newton's law here, based on what they are asking? What do you get?
 
Ok, that's what I was thinking...except I just wasn't sure I had all of the forces right in my free body diagram. So there would be no normal force then (just weight and the exerted force)? If I make the +x direction on the horizontal axis my sum would be Fcos70.5 = (ma) in x direction and my sum in the +y direction would be Fsin70.5-w =(ma)in y direction. But at this point I am still confused because I don't know the plane's weight or acceleration. I'm sure this problem isn't that difficult but for some reason nothing is clicking for me about where to go from here.
 
AR8742 said:
Ok, that's what I was thinking...except I just wasn't sure I had all of the forces right in my free body diagram. So there would be no normal force then (just weight and the exerted force)? If I make the +x direction on the horizontal axis my sum would be Fcos70.5 = (ma) in x direction and my sum in the +y direction would be Fsin70.5-w =(ma)in y direction. But at this point I am still confused because I don't know the plane's weight or acceleration. I'm sure this problem isn't that difficult but for some reason nothing is clicking for me about where to go from here.

You're trying to find the planes weight, so the y-equation is the one to use. What is the acceleration in the y direction?
 
Is it 9.8m/s^2?
 
AR8742 said:
Is it 9.8m/s^2?

No, but you can determine the vertical acceleration from the fact that it says the plane rises with constant velocity in the vertical direction. What would that be?
 

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