Frequency of a Car's Vibrations?

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The discussion revolves around calculating the frequency of a car's vibrations when loaded with passengers. The combined mass of the passengers is 297 kg, causing the car to drop 2.8 cm, which is used to determine the spring constant (k). The user initially misapplies the formula for frequency, leading to incorrect results. Clarifications highlight the importance of distinguishing between the mass of the passengers and the mass of the car itself in the calculations. The conversation emphasizes correcting the equations used and understanding the parameters involved in the vibration frequency calculation.
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Frequency of a Car's Vibrations?

Homework Statement


When four people with a combined mass of 297 kg sit down in a car, they find that the car drops 2.8 cm lower on its springs. Then they get out of the car and bounce it up and down. What is the frequency of the car's vibration if its empty mass is 2210 kg


Homework Equations


F = kx
x=k/F
f=(1/2)(pi)sqrt(m/k)
F=mg

The Attempt at a Solution


I tried using F=mg=(297)(9.8) =2910.6 N
k=103,950 N/m
f=(1/2)(pi)sqrt(2210/103950)=0.229 which was the wrong answer. Not really sure what I'm doing wrong.
Please provide solution and approach to problem. Thanks!
 
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ok. I found the equation for the frequency to be f=w/2(pi) and w=sqrt(k/m)
so, w=sqrt(103950)/297 =18.7 and f=18.7/(2)(pi) =2.97 which is also wrong. ??
 


jumpingjack90 said:
ok. I found the equation for the frequency to be f=w/2(pi) and w=sqrt(k/m)
so, w=sqrt(103950)/297 =18.7 and f=18.7/(2)(pi) =2.97 which is also wrong. ??

There are two different "m" quantities here. The first m is the mass of the people who sit in the car so that the k value can be calculated for the springs. The second m is the mass of what? What is resonating when they get out and start pushing on the car to achieve resonance?

BTW, you also had a typo in your Relevant equations when you manipulated the F=kx equation. You did the calculation correctly when you calculated k later, but x is not equal to k/F. Just a typo right there, not affecting your final math.

2. Homework Equations
F = kx
x=k/F
 
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