Frictional implications on non-elastic momentum

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The discussion focuses on the physics of a bullet embedding into a wooden block and the subsequent motion of the block on a horizontal surface with kinetic friction. The initial momentum equation is established, leading to a velocity expression that incorporates mass and initial speed. The coefficient of kinetic friction (U) is identified as crucial for calculating the deceleration due to friction, which affects the distance the block slides before coming to rest. The relationship between kinetic energy and friction is emphasized, suggesting that energy lost to friction must be accounted for in the motion equations. The conversation highlights the need to integrate the coefficient of kinetic friction into the calculations for accurate results.
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Homework Statement


Consider a bullet of mass m fired at a speed of Vo into a wooden block of mass M. The bullet instantaneously comes to a rest in the block. The block with the embedded bullet slides along a horizontal surface with a coefficient of kinetic energy U.
How far (s) does the block slide before it comes to rest. Express your answer in terms of m,M,Vo,U and g.


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The Attempt at a Solution


(m+M)Vf=mVo
thus
Vo=(m+M)/m*Vf
and Vf=root of (2gs)
So
(Vo*m/m+M)^2 = 2gs
s=(1/2g)(Vo*m/m+M)^2

Now my question is if this is correct. I know this is the equation used when the wood is on a pendulim. Where is the U that they give?
 
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Is your u coefficient of kinetic energy not the coefficient of kinetic friction μk.

In which case your use of g in your equations should possibly be modified to reflect deceleration due to the force of kinetic friction?

F = m*a = μ*m*g

a = μ*g
 
The U is definitely for kinetic energy. That's why I don't know where it is suppose to fit in.
 
anelmarx said:
The U is definitely for kinetic energy. That's why I don't know where it is suppose to fit in.

Yes, but ... what is that?

From the law of the conservation of energy you can say that there is some energy that goes to friction related by some μ * Fn over the path of motion. That's energy robbed from the kinetic energy. But the μ is also commonly called μk - the coefficient of kinetic friction.

Energy to friction = Ef = μ*∫Fn(x) dx

It also relates to Force over that distance for a uniform Fn(x) over the distance as simply μ*Fn, or in your case with Fn = m*g, then ...

Ffr = μ*Fn = μ*m*g = m*a

As before then your deceleration is as stated a = μ*g
 
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